12 Aug 2012

Linux Mint 13 Cinnamon: Not Quite There Yet


Linux Mint has never been my favourite. Except, maybe, for the short-term flirt with Mint Xfce, which I ran on my laptop for several weeks. The end of that story was not as happy as the beginning. Mint Xfce was based on the testing branch of Debian, so another update of the codebase broke the system to an unrecognisable state. Finally, I got rid of Mint Xfce. It is no longer part of my laptop's landscape.

Nevertheless, it is impossible to avoid news about this operating system, because it is widely discussed. There are several reasons for this. They are somehow interlinked, but let me list them separately.

Linux Mint is currently #1 in the Distrowatch's popularity rating.Linux Mint's team decided to avoid the way of their major codebase owner, Ubuntu, and forked 2 (two!) desktop environments for use with their distribution, on top of standard KDE and Xfce. These desktop environments are Cinnamon and MATE.

This is the second reason I have an impulse to look at Linux Mint today. I downloaded both Linux Mint 13 Maya Cinnamon and Linux Mint 13 Maya MATE. It was a dilemma for me which one to start from. The draw favoured Cinnamon.

If you are unaware, Cinnamon is the Mint team's rework of the GNOME3 interface. It is built on GNOME3, but the user interface is different from the default GNOME Shell. This may sound familiar to some readers of my blog, because I've written some articles about distros that take the same approach: for example, Zorin OS. However, Zorin and Mint are different. Where Zorin aims to be as close as possible to the Windows interface, Linux Mint does not have this goal.

Linux Mint 13 Maya in general is based on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.

I used Unetbootin to "burn" the ISO image to the USB stick. The size of this distribution, Linux Mint 13 Maya Cinnamon, is 817 Mb. When the USB stick was ready, I plugged it into the USB port of my Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo Pi 1505 laptop. Reboot. Choose to boot from USB. Let's go!



Booting up

Unetbootin presented its usual boot menu. It included the usual items, like Boot Linux Mint and Boot Linux Mint in Compatibility Mode. The latter, I believe, means that all the fancy drivers are replaced with the more basic ones, for the systems with not-so-well supported hardware. Apart from these items, the Unetbootin menu listed elements, which allow checking the boot media, doing a memory check or booting from the HDD.

I chose the normal boot option for my Live USB run of Linux Mint 13 Maya Cinnamon.

Once the boot process started, the screen became empty and black. There was no fancy splash screen. It stayed like this until the very end, when the ready-to-use system was presented with the working Desktop. The only exception was the mouse cursor which appeared a little bit earlier.

Should I say that the boot process was quick? Probably not. Because it was very quick! Just a few seconds passed from the selection of boot menu item to the fully working desktop.

Linux Mint 13 Maya Cinnamon
uses about 188 Mb to bootThe freshly booted
Linux Mint 13 Maya Cinnamon used about 188 Mb of memory, which is an extremely good result for the Ubuntu- and GNOME3-based OS. To compare, Zorin OS uses 290 Mb and Xfce-based Xubuntu 12.04 uses 210 Mb in Live USB run on the same hardware.

Technically speaking, Linux Mint 13 Maya Cinnamon runs on Linux kernel 3.2.0-23.

Desktop

The default desktop in Linux Mint 13 Maya Cinnamon has the classical layout. That was the purpose of Cinnamon: to get rid of the controversial GNOME Shell interface and revert it back to a more “classical” one.

There are some icons on the desktop: Home folder, Computer and Install.

The default wallpaper in Linux Mint has not changed for the last few releases. It is the name of the distribution, LinuxMint, written in a specific font and colours on a grey background. The only difference now is that instead of a version number in the circle at the bottom of the LinuxMint word, the word Maya is in the same circle.

There is a choice of about 20 alternative wallpapers in the default distribution, if you don't like the Linux Mint standard one. Most of the alternatives are landscapes, predominantly seaside or mountains.

There is a panel at the bottom of the screen. It is black, and there is no way to change the color, as far as I know. That’s a generic GNOME3 issue.

The bottom-left corner is taken by the Menu button with a cogwheel icon. Next to it, you can find the Show Desktop button and quick launch panel with shortcuts for Firefox browser, Terminal and Nautilus file manager.

Here you may start struggling with icons, because Linux Mint has a long-term tendency to use non-standard icons for the applications. In particular, I've never seen these Firefox and Nautilus icons in any other distribution. You can find more cases as you dig into the menu.

The right part of the panel has the usual set of elements in the notification area: clocks, power meter, network manager, volume control, USB device manager.



Couple of observations here.

First of all, all the elements are in white on a black background. The only exception is the battery status icon, which is green. Why? From my point of view, there is no particular reason for it to be green.

Second, the Removable Devices icon has the image of... desktop computer. I don't understand the logical sequence how a removable device has become the computer itself.

The central part of the panel, as you would expect, is the taskbar, where all the current applications have their own buttons with icons and names.

You may have noticed that there is no switcher between the virtual desktops in the default Linux Mint 13 Maya Cinnamon operating system. Of course, this functionality is still available. If you need the switcher, then you can add this applet to the panel, using the menu from the little triangle in the notification area.

There are some desktop effects available out of the box. They are not annoying like exploding menus or wobbly windows, but rather mild ones: windows minimize, appear and close with scaling animation. Strangely enough, the Cinnamon configuration window had the checkbox for desktop effects unticked. I ticked it for an experiment, but nothing changed.

Network

Linux Mint 13 Maya automatically recognised and configured the wireless network card of my laptop Intel 3945 ABG. My home wireless network was in the list of networks shown by the manager applet. It took me a few seconds to type in the security key and to connect.

Keyboard Layout

The default keyboard layout in Linux Mint 13 Cinnamon is English US. There is a Keyboard Layout element in the Preferences part of the menu. It calls up the standard Ubuntu/GNOME configuration window. I was able to configure it to my taste, replacing the English US with English UK + Russian and activating the Ctrl-Shift switch hotkey.

The touchpad was also automatically configured to my own taste, with edge scrolling and tapping working as I like them.

Menu

The major reason why I did not like Linux Mint in its previous GNOME-based versions was the menu.

Many people fancy the Mint menu. I hate it. It is far too complicated for me: several columns of shortcuts, working almost independently from each other. And when it takes almost the whole screen, it drives me crazy. Menu is not an application to me, it's a tool to start an application. It should be simple and small.

Did Cinnamon bring anything new here? Thank God, yes! Linux Mint 13 Cinnamon features a less complicated menu. It still has several sections. But it became smaller, from my point of view. Also, I start to get the logic in its organisation. To be honest, the logic is very similar to the one of GNOME Shell itself.

The menu can be called either by clicking on the panel button, or by pressing the Super (Windows) key on the keyboard.

To start with, the left column has some shortcuts which you can configure. By default, there are shortcuts to Firefox browser, Nautilus file manager, Terminal, Cinnamon Settings, XChatIRC and session management (shutdown, logout, lock). You can add more shortcuts by dragging-and-dropping them onto the menu section. I noticed a bug there. When you move a new icon towards the menu area, it adds a space for the future element. But if you change your mind, and do not drop new item to the shortcuts section, it still leaves an empty space.

The rest of the panel is the menu itself. The middle section shows menu groups, like All Applications, Office, Internet, Graphics and so on. The right part shows elements in that group. As I have said, this is similar to the principles of the GNOME Shell menu.

What is in the menu? The list if rather big, so you won't be left barebones.

Firefox 12.0 is the default and the only browser in Mint 13 Cinnamon. Other than Firefox, the Internet section includes Pidgin instant messenger client, Transmission torrent client, Desktop Sharing, XChatIRC and Thunderbird e-mail client. You may have noticed that Mint 13 does not a include remote desktop viewer application by default, so you would need to install it from the repositories.

LibreOffice 3.5.2.2 is the main element of the Office part of the Mint menu. There are applications like Writer, Calc, Impress and Base. There is no LibreOffice Math. Other than LibreOffice, there is also a Document Viewer. Something is wrong with LibreOffice in Mint 13. Apart from the extremely long initial startup time for this application, it used so many resources that fans of the laptop went bananas during the LibreOffice Calc startup.

LibreOffice Draw is a part of the Graphics section of the menu in Mint 13 Cinnamon. This section also includes GIMP, gThumb, SimpleScan, Document Viewer and Image Viewer. The collection here is quite powerful and logical, apart from the duplication created by the presence of both gThumb and Image Viewer.

The Sound & Video section of the Mint 13 menu has even more duplications: VLC, Banshee, GNOME MPlayer and Movie Player are all the same in their purpose: multimedia players. Why would you need all of them together? This collection of players is complemented by the Brasero disk burner and Sound Recorder.

The Accessories section includes a more or less standard set of applications: Tomboy notes, Calculator, Disk Utility, gEdit, Nautilus File Manager, Screenshot utility, Terminal. There is some controversy, I must say. I can understand why the Screenshot utility was moved from Graphics to Accessories: this is a small and light tool for everyday use. But I cannot understand who in his right mind could place Disk Utility in the Accessories section? This is an administrative application, not an accessory!

Nautilus File Manager in Mint 13 has the same issue with file sizes, as I saw in Fedora 17 GNOME: the actual file size of Mint 13 Cinnamon distribution 817 Mb was shown as 856 Mb, because it is actually 856,686,592 bytes. My dear GNOME3 / Nautilus developers, there is a difference between Megabyte (Mb) and Million of bytes!

The System Tools in Linux Mint 13 Maya are also standard ones: Disk Usage Analyzer, System Monitor, System Settings, Power Statistics. GDebi intstaller, Log file viewer.

There are many more interesting tools in the Administration section of the menu. There is GParted (in addition to Disk Utility from Accessories), Backup tool, Firewall configuration, Network tool, Synaptic, Update Manager, Software Manager (Mint’s package manager), Ndiswraper tool and some others.

As you can see, there are applications in Linux Mint 13 Maya Cinnamon for almost all possible tasks. To be honest, there are many applications that duplicate each other, and some of them are misplaced in the menu. But generally, the selection is not that bad.

If you need more applications, then Software Manager is your likely place to search for them. Of course, if you don't want to use Synaptic for whatever reason, this Software Manager is a package manager developed by Mint's team as an alternative to Ubuntu Software Centre.

The sources of Linux Mint 13 include Mint's own repositories plus Ubuntu 12.04 standard ones. There are no PPAs in the default Mint distribution, apart from medibuntu repository.

To try the Software Manager in Linux Mint 13 Live USB run, I tried to install the remote desktop viewer Remmina. When I clicked the "Install" button in the Software Manager, the button disappeared, but there were no indications of the progress, no additional questions, no messages, no feedback at all. The end result was that I found no changes in the system.

My second attempt to install Remmina was with Synaptic. This time round, I was given the list of dependencies and the size of downloaded and installed files. But, unfortunately, I was not able to install Remmina packages: they were not found on the server, for whatever reason. I don't know whom to blame here, either Linux Mint or Ubuntu repository.

At the same time, I was able to install Gigolo network partition manager from the same repository using Synaptic. Honestly, I have not tried Software Manager for this. But not everything was shiny and polished here… Even though the installation went smoothly in Synaptic, I could not find Gigolo in the Mint menu. I could only start it from the Terminal.

Network partition

Nautilus file manager includes a function to browse the network. Unfortunately, this function was useless for me: it could not see the fileserver in my home network.

It was the time for Gigolo to come into play. This application very often helps me to map remote partitions in different Linux distributions. But, unfortunately, it did not work for me in Linux Mint. Gigolo could not retrieve the list of shares from the server.

My first guess was that Linux Mint 13 does not include the Samba client (smbfs) package, which is required for mounting of remote Samba partitions. I installed it from the Software Manager itself, and this time I was pleasantly surprised: I saw the "ongoing action" in the SM's status bar, and then the package's status changed to "Installed".

Unfortunately, even this installation did not help Gigolo to mount the external partition. As the last resort, I went for the manual mounting in the Terminal. And even this operation failed!

mint@mint ~ $ sudo mount -t cifs //remoteserver/folder /localfolder -o guest,nolinux

mount error: could not resolve address for remoteserver: Unknown error

I was in despair! I tried to ping my local addresses for the server or router, and none of them was reachable! In contrast, the external Internet addresses were accessible. Unfortunately, Linux Mint 13 did not see any devices in my home network! That was not an issue of Gigolo or Samba client, then.

I saw a very similar issue in Zorin OS 6 Core: it could not resolve IP addresses of my local devices. Zorin OS 6 and Mint 13 share the same root: both use Ubuntu 12.04 + GNOME3. This is not an issue of Ubuntu 12.04 itself, because I do not have this issue in my Xubuntu 12.04 installation, so I can only blame GNOME 3 here. However, I did have positive results with connecting from Fedora 17 GNOME. To be honest, I am lost in my guesses.

Multimedia

Even though I could not connect to my external network drive, I could still test the playback of multimedia files: I keep some MP3 files on the laptop's own hard drive.

From all the available applications, the less expected Movie Player is the default player for MP3 files. It started the playback straight away.

As you may know, Mint 13 comes with all the necessary codecs included, unless you specifically downloaded the version with trimmed codecs.

Linux Mint 13 includes necessary multimedia codecs
and Flash player
The same is valid for the Flash player: YouTube and other on-line videos played out of the box in the Firefox browser.

Conclusion

Linux Mint 13 Maya Cinnamon Live USB run left quite a strange impression on me.

From the positive side, this operating system exceeded my expectations in terms of speed. It both boots and works quickly. I saw no significant delays, except for extremely long startup time of LibreOffice Calc, but this is a generic issue of LibreOffice. Also, Mint 13 Cinnamon includes a nice set of applications, codecs and Flash player, which give you a workable operating system right out of the box.

On the negative side, there are still issues to work on.

The menu has too many applications for the same task. Some applications are definitely misplaced in the wrong menu sections.The issue with file sizes in Nautilus is very disorienting.And, of course, the bug with local network devices is definitely a major one.

Weighing all these pros and cons, I would say that Linux Mint Cinnamon team has lots of tasks to work on.

Would I recommend someone to install it for the production use? Only if you fancy to be a guinea pig or a beta-tester of the operating system. That’s not my cup of tea, you know.

Apart from Cinnamon, Linux Mint team released a MATE variant of Linux Mint 13 Maya. Is it any better? Follow the link to check it out!

Do you want to try the latest version of Linux Mint yourself? To help you, here is a Buy Linux CDs site.

Video used in the screenshot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkmET8y-RiM#!


This post was edited by djohnston.

64 comments:

  1. You probably had trouble installing apps in the Live USB because it's exactly that a live distro, you need to install it on the hard drive to get the full experience of a distro!

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    1. Not all Linux distros have this problem. Others do install applications in Live environment well.

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    2. yeah..you r wright.., i'm also facing same problem when installing appln in Live USB.

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    3. Anyway I think Mint MATE is a better live distro than Cinnamon

      Oh, in order to change the panel's colour one can change the "Cinnamon" theme.

      As for changing the desktop, one can drag the mouse to the top left.....but you're right, noticing that utility might depend too much on one's luck...

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  2. I'm still surprised at Cinnamon being a major selling point for Mint - it's a menu for goodness sake...Even then I still think it gets outdone by the much simpler and traditional style of the standard XFCE menu, or the KDE one when switched to classic mode or Gnome 2 fallback mode lol!
    I used to be quite a fan of Mint but as of late it doesn't offer anything compelling enough for me to go back to.

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    1. I don't think that Cinnamon is a major selling point. I suppose the main reason is "all inclusive" approach with pretty well-balanced (well, almost) set of applications out of the box, plus codecs and Flash.

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    2. If you like older Mints than you might like Mint MATE. MATE is basically a GNOME 2 replica, with a lot of relabelled code ( To prevent conflict with GNOME 3). So Mint 13 MATE is probably identical to the releases of the GNOME 2 days.

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    3. Their major selling point, from what I remember, is both the Cinnamon and MATE edition. It's just that people end up opting for Cinnamon.

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    4. "ARE" both Cinnamon and MATE.....

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    5. Wait a little, I am preparing the review of MATE edition. It will appear here within a week, if nothing changes in my plans.

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    6. I use MATE as long as there is Mint12.
      It works like Gnome2 and still I'm so happy with it. Simple, direct and productive.

      MATE and Xfce (Xubuntu, but I suspect Xfce Mint will be fine) are equal good in my opinion. I like them better then KDE, better then Cinnamon although Cinnamon could become okay one day.

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    7. MATE has his own "features", which I am going to pinpoint soon.

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    8. I have been using linux mint 13 cinnamon as my main desktop since it came out. I have no problems just works. Best distro i ever used and i have testet quite some distros. i would recommend it to anyone anytime.

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  3. For the Mb issue:
    b denotes bit not byte (B)
    M denotes 1000**2

    So technically the nautilus developers didn't screw up. To properly display 856686592 Bytes one can either go:

    856.686592 MB or 817 MiB

    Mi denotes 1024**2

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    1. Check wikipedia: The megabyte (abbreviated as Mbyte or MB)...

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    2. I believe you can switch gnome from using megabytes back to mibibytes through a dconf setting. Regardless, MB (1000*1000)) is technically correct. MiB (1024* 1024) are more cs-y but could be confusing for those not cognizant of the differences.

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    3. I tried to find this setting in dconf, but could not find it. Maybe you can point it out for me and everyone?

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  4. Couldn't agree more with the sentiments.."Mint13 doesn't offer anything compelling enough for me to go back to [it]". I have tried on numerous occasions to like this distro, from 9 onwards, but Mint always felt somehow incomplete...aka like a beta version. However, I do see merit in Cinnamon, and so, I have opted as a preferred choice a tweaked Ubuntu 12.04 with cinnamon installed....shweeet!

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    1. If you have Mint installed, can you please check whether it works OK with local network devices? I still struggle to understand this bug...

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    2. So DD, I vaporized my Mint13 partition to go exclusively with my tweaked version of Cin-Ubuntu 12.04 and have sworn never to hop again.

      I note the same as Neal below that Cinnamon of Mint13 would randomly cause screen freezes with my laptop, which was a major annoyance factor for this distro to me....Cinnamon in my experience installed on U12.04 works beautifully..

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    3. installed mint 13 cinnamon and i can access my windows server and network shares

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  5. You mentioned not understanding why the battery monitor indication was a green bar. I notice it is at a green bar with a reading of 94%. It might change to more "warning"ly colors such as yellow, orange, then red as the battery storage level drops, giving the user an informative assessment of battery level ranging from green = "no problem!" to red = "imminent, uncontrolled shutdown expected!"

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    1. This may be the reason. 8-)

      My battery monitor almost always show 94-95%, even when fully charged. I guess that it could be white in this case, and change to amber/red when necessary, to draw attention.

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  6. I note that you made few comments regarding Cinnamon.

    Cinnamon has, in my experience, numerous problems. On my laptop, it was an endless source of desktop freezes - or, so it seemed. The freezes sometimes leave enough of the desktop working so that you can, if the panel remains partially functional, restart Cinnamon without having to Ctrl Alt Backspace. This, in the end, was a game ender for me.

    Cinnamon also interacts oddly with some applications, causing windows to pop up in some applications and remain in place, blocking the program. The same did not occur to me when I used Gnome fallback or when I installed a true Gnome environment - Gnome 3 being a bad program in its own right. Menus in Cinnamon also sometimes have strange delays - which I trust is akin to mini-freezes that fixes itself.

    All in all, Cinnamon, on Mint 13, is not ready for primetime. I gave up on it. I have learned to live with Unity, which, at least, is not a source of endless desktop freezes.

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    1. Cinnamon is still relatively new DE. I agree that its rough edges may be counterintuitive for newbies. But I wouldn't scrap it as a whole. Maybe we should give it a little time?

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    2. I do not think the trouble is for newbies. I think there are real problems with it in Mint 13. I use it on another computer, which runs Mint 12. But, on my computer that I need for work, I need something which works pretty much all the time.

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    3. I meant, real problems with Cinnamon on Mint 13.

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  7. I used Mint 12 for a while and I concur with your assessment of Mint.

    Whilst I do not use Ubuntu I do trust it to work for 99% of the things I want it to do if I do happen to install it or run it in live. I can't say the same for MINT.

    I had to fix a colleague's netbook when she forgot her Windows password (On the only account she had set up). Most of the time I would use Puppy or a similarly light distro to fix the issue but I had left the pen drive at home and all I had with me was a 12.04 version of Ubuntu that I had been planning to try out at some point. I booted the netbook with Ubuntu and it just worked.

    I have used Mint in the past and the Mate desktop had an annoying issue of disappearing panels. Cinnamon would show funny characters and look generally rubbish. Other people have said that this issue is to do with the graphics installed in my laptop but I've seen this happen on multiple devices and I have no problems with Gnome 3 or Unity.

    So basically for me it comes down to trust. I trust Ubuntu. I can't say the same for Mint

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    1. MATE's issue of disappearing panels is gone now if i'm not mistaken....It runs beautifully on Debian! Just don't try it using Ubuntu Oneiric...

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    2. I have now tried Mint 13 and I am going to change my opinion of it.

      On one of my laptops I have started to use mate and once you get used to the cluttered menu it is ok. The disappearing panels problem has indeed gone away.

      I installed Cinnamon on my desktop PC which is quite powerful and I really like it. The menu is actually very easy to navigate. I am also impressed with the shortcuts for navigating to different workspaces and workspace management as a whole.

      If your machine can handle it I would recommend Cinnamon.

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  8. I've never liked the Mint menu but I guess that's just personal taste. I mostly use Ubuntu with Unity. I also have Cinnamon and Gnome-shell installed in Ubuntu but I get alone great with Unity. I have tried out LinuxMint 13 in a VM and it really is not up to par with their past releases. I believe what happened is they got in a hurry trying to find something to replace Gnome2 and used something that was not entirely stable. And as far as the Distrowatch Page Hit Rankings, that is for entertainment purposes only. They in no way, shape, or form indicate the quality of any distribution. By the way, thanks for an honest review.

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    1. And thanks for the honest comment! 8-)

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  9. I have had much success with Mint. I have been running Cinnamon live via USB for some time now. The only issue I have had installing software is that sometimes the progress bar stops in the middle for a while and then jumps to finished. I do occasionally experience newly installed software not displaying in the menu. Logging in and out solves that problem and I don't lose any of my "live" data (bookmarks,etc). I think it is great that you can run XChat and speak directly with the Mint team to get help should you need it. (Although, it may not be obvious to a new user.) Perhaps give it another shot and see if they can help you resolve your file server issue. (A test of their services.) Both Skype and Google Video Chat work without issue as does my wireless printer/scanner. I do not have a file server set up at this time to test that (dis)functionality for you.

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  10. I recently decided to go back to Linux after a couple of years. I had a good look around and chose Mint Cinnamon. Why? Because it works. I very rarely get the freeze problem that others mention. But I am running it on desk top, not a lap top. With lots of RAM.
    So far the only aspect that fails is Sound Effects. They are greyed out in the sound control panel. I can live with that easily enough.
    Re the network problem. I run a home network though a server that also acts as the main firewall. I can access a remote printer, but that is the only remote device I want to look at.
    I agree that there is duplication in the available software. But then there is also uninstall. Which is pretty quick and pretty efficient.

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    1. I am pretty sure you're not the only person who likes Linux Mint Cinnamon.
      Unfortunately, I am not from that list. There's nothing wrong in either position.

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  11. Mint 13 Xfce is based on Ubuntu 12.04 - LMDE (Linux Mint Debian Edition) is based on Debian ...

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  12. @Juergen: Linux Mint Xfce _was_ based on Debian when I used it. They moved back to Ubuntu now. Thanks for pointing the typo, I have fixed it.

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  13. edit your /etc/samba/smb.conf


    replace "name resolve order = lmhosts host wins bcast"
    with "name resolve order = bcast host lmhosts wins"

    This fixed mine.

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    1. Ohh...and "sudo restart smbd"

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    2. Nope, this does not help. At least, in Live USB version.

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    3. Thanks, that solved my local network issue with LM 14 Mate!

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  14. I gave up on LMint 13 when i was affected by random freezes that ruined the RC.
    Never bother to try the final since LM Xfce 13 has won my vote....

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  15. I can't stand either Cinnamon or MATE menu. I opted out of Cinnamon and installed the MATE version. Immediately I deleted the mint menu system to the old school "Main Menu" (Applications, Places, System). Everything is working pretty well. Caja file manager seems to not work correctly with Windows domain credentials (eg the "domain" box is not working period. However USER: domain\user_acct works flawlessly, just ignore the domain field) Mate has so far been stable as heck. No problems, no gripes. If there's a problem try something else. Linux almost always requires workarounds it seems.

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    1. Have you reported this bug to developers?

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  16. I'm not a fan of Cinnamon either. (though, I like it better than MATE) Granted, it's better than Gnome-Shell or Unity. However, for me at least, the issues with Gnome 3 go beyond the GUI. One comment you made was about not being able to change the color of the taskbar. This can be achieved by changing the Cinnamon theme. Though, you can't choose your colors or anything, you have to go with what the themes give you. Also, the rest of the taskbar has very few customization options compared to other GUIs and even Gnome 2.

    Personally, I like Mint 13, though I prefer Mint 13 XFCE (Not LMDE XFCE) and Mint 13 KDE over either of the Gnome releases. KDE is my favorite of the Mint 13 releases and the KDE version that comes with it is very stable. Plus, if you hate the gargantuan menu, you can always right-click on it and switch to the "classic" menu, which is a very basic old style school menu.

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  17. I've been using Cinnamon for a couple weeks now, its the only thing that fixed a nasty video screen tear I was having in MATE. On the whole, i gotta say I like it. Its clearly a work in progress, but on my dell d620 its plenty snappy, doesn't seem to use any more memory than MATE...It certainly beats the pants off of GNOME 3, Unity LXDE...

    But, to point out the obvious, desktop Linux is kinda a clusterf%$K right now..

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  18. I'm new to Linux and I' like Ubuntu with Unity. can't wait to have it on a tablet, cuz I' hate Metro.










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    1. I think you will need to wait for very long time until you can replace Metro on any tablet with Unity. Because of locked BIOS on ARM devices.

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  19. Also Mint needs to come up with a proper desktop for tablets something like android but more like linux with apps , not like Joly cloud

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    1. Oh, no... Not yet another Tablet interface of desktop!

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  20. don't want to chat but the people behind Ubuntu can make there own tablet, just sell it as a facebook device and you can sell them easy

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  21. Installing cinnamon on my laptop was best improvement that could be done in all aspects of computing. Runs 100% perfectly. Better than windows or even osx. Really easy to use. Just awesome.

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    1. I am happy to hear you found what you've been looking for. My choice is different from yours, but I respect both.

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    1. Deleted because of the language you use. Please watch your speak next time.

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  23. I'm using dell inspiron1525 32-bit, my problem is that my dongle is not getting connected automatically and also by doing all the setting net not get connected..

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  24. I have been using linux mint since ubuntu changed to unity (doubt that i am going to use unity ever).

    Now on linux mint 13 cinnamon and using it as my main desktop.Have no problems, just works. Best distro i ever used and i have tried quite some distros. I would recommend it to anyone anytime.

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    1. Have you fixed the issues I encountered while writing this post? Or they're not issues for you?

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  25. They have not been issues for me i have been using teamviewer for remote desktop and i have not tried to install gigolo.I never had trouble installing what i need, but i also installed it on my harddrive.

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  26. I could not install any software either from the terminal or the graphic interface on Linux mint cinamon on mate 13. Both Linux mint and Fedora should have not included the graphic interface as it has never worked for me.

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    1. You're probably the only person who failed to install something in Mint or Fedora.
      I'd say that the reason then is NOT in Mint or Fedora installers.

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  27. I have installed whatever I wanted on fedora using the terminal, but this did not happen in Mint.

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  28. Just one question: Does Mint have a problem with a proxy server?

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    1. I have never tried this. You'd better ask on Mint forum.

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