tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post8382110429913795507..comments2024-03-26T17:37:35.499+00:00Comments on Linux notes from DarkDuck: Mint Cocktail: Mojito or MolotovDarkDuck (m)http://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-28644308700588871402011-12-23T12:00:58.495+00:002011-12-23T12:00:58.495+00:00@Bruno
quote::Back to MATE, I can't see anythi...@Bruno<br />quote::Back to MATE, I can't see anything good with it. Older technology is bound to have less issues to workout, but it is just that.<br /><br />Actually MATE will be upgraded to the GNOME3 Libraries, so it will be current technology.<br /><br /><br /><br />Quote::I particularly hate the name as well.<br /><br />I couldn't give a rats, so long as it provides me with a decent desktop.tracyannehttp://lxer.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-58610239675039154082011-12-23T11:39:16.575+00:002011-12-23T11:39:16.575+00:00@DD, no for me Mint 11 is an upgrade. I'm curr...@DD, no for me Mint 11 is an upgrade. I'm currently using Mint 9, it's an LTS release that reahes end of life in April 2012. <br /><br />@Bruno9779, I'm an ex KDE3 user, no it doesn't. The paradigm is similar, which is why I switched to Mint from KDE3<br /><br />@DD, But why switch to an unused desktop to double click on an icon, I have the filenamager open all the time, why not use that instead, a sinle mouse click brings it to the top of the oter windows, where as desktop applets and icons can never be brough to the top. And you cant store very much on a desktop before it becomes so cluttered it defeats the purpose. So it's a habit I never got into, even on Windows (especially on Windows).<br /><br />The chances are when I switch desktop it's to go to an already open Window.tracyannehttp://lxer.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-6825539939048457762011-12-23T09:47:23.001+00:002011-12-23T09:47:23.001+00:00@tracyanne:
>I can't be bothered minimising...@tracyanne:<br />>I can't be bothered minimising and unminimising my windows just to find something on the desktop.<br /><br />You can switch to another desktop without open windows for a sec.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-16420074419667815822011-12-23T01:33:31.430+00:002011-12-23T01:33:31.430+00:00@tracyanne, of course it is MATE (note the gnome a...@tracyanne, of course it is MATE (note the gnome apps) waht I meant is that it looks EXACLY like KDE3 did.<br /><br />I have one Full-HD monitor and shell works fine with it.<br />I understand that their "hot corner" approach is bound to be a pain in the ass for multi-monitor setups. I wonder if they'll ever get around that issue.<br /><br />Desktop icons aren't there to be quickly accessed. They are there out of laziness or to remind me they exist.<br />For me a desktop is just that: a place where to empty my pockets when I am in a hurry or I am going to bed ...<br /><br />Back to MATE, I can't see anything good with it. Older technology is bound to have less issues to workout, but it is just that.<br />I particularly hate the name as well. I lived in London for years and calling an ugly panel "mate" feels awkward; here in Argentina mate is an extremely popular stimulating infusion (much more popular than coffee) so it feels awkward too.<br /><br />Nonetheless, if I were forced to choose it would be MATE over UnityBruno9779https://www.blogger.com/profile/15384087964327571751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-25691853002962035472011-12-22T22:50:41.628+00:002011-12-22T22:50:41.628+00:00@Bruno9779, no it's MATE (or GNOME2) with the ...@Bruno9779, no it's MATE (or GNOME2) with the panel at the bottom. And, unlike GNOME3 shell, it works properly on my Multi Monitor High resolution rig.<br /><br />The biggest difference between your setup of MATE and mine is the desktop icons... I don't use any, nor do I ue the desktop applets. I can't be bothered minimising and unminimising my windows just to find something on the desktop.tracyannehttp://lxer.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-56000113157877851532011-12-22T17:04:48.529+00:002011-12-22T17:04:48.529+00:00Here are same links in clickable format:
GNOME-she...Here are same links in clickable format:<br />GNOME-shell<br /><a href="http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab206/berserk9779/Screenshotat2011-12-22131811.png" rel="nofollow">One</a><br /><a href="http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab206/berserk9779/Screenshotat2011-12-22131921.png" rel="nofollow">Two</a><br /><a href="http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab206/berserk9779/Screenshotat2011-12-22132128.png" rel="nofollow">Three</a><br /><br />MATE:<br /><a href="http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab206/berserk9779/Workspace1_012.png" rel="nofollow">One</a><br /><a href="http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab206/berserk9779/Workspace1_011.png" rel="nofollow">Two</a>DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-70706087023775672532011-12-22T16:56:13.874+00:002011-12-22T16:56:13.874+00:00I have take 3 screenshots of Gnome-shell:
[IMG]ht...I have take 3 screenshots of Gnome-shell:<br /><br />[IMG]http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab206/berserk9779/Screenshotat2011-12-22131811.png[/IMG]<br />[IMG]http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab206/berserk9779/Screenshotat2011-12-22131921.png[/IMG]<br />[IMG]http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab206/berserk9779/Screenshotat2011-12-22132128.png[/IMG]<br /><br />And 2 of MATE:<br /><br />[IMG]http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab206/berserk9779/Workspace1_012.png[/IMG]<br />[IMG]http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab206/berserk9779/Workspace1_011.png[/IMG]<br /><br />I have tweaked the look of gnome-shell, while MATE has the default look.<br />Honestly, isn't that KDE3?Bruno9779https://www.blogger.com/profile/15384087964327571751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-76583617289102973142011-12-22T14:07:17.373+00:002011-12-22T14:07:17.373+00:00@Bruno9779:
Pity you have not got full-scope post....@Bruno9779:<br />Pity you have not got full-scope post.<br />Thanks for mini-review, though.<br />Your point of view is very much different from Deidomedo. He thinks that MATE is good while others are below his standards.<br />I've only tried one version, so I can't comment.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-862882542396143192011-12-22T11:41:35.302+00:002011-12-22T11:41:35.302+00:00(I didn't have time to write my own review, so...(I didn't have time to write my own review, sorry.)<br /><br />My default in Linux mint is different, I am kind of surprised of your review.<br />I have a pure Gnome-shell out of the box (I downloaded the DVD version, maybe that's it?).<br />Gnome-shell is much more stable than Fedora 16's. Fedora's shell kept crashing when I turned on combinations of features in gnome-tweak-tool. Also, in Mint gnome-tweak-tool is installed by default.<br />GTT in combination with the shell-extension website (https://extensions.gnome.org/) is almost perfect for my needs.<br />I have istalled from there: Alt Tab, CPU Temperature Indicator, noa11y, Overlay Icons (and modified it to my needs), User Themes, Workspace Navigator and Frippery Shut Down Menu.<br /><br />I have tried MATE briefly and I think it is pointless. I find it identical to KDE3, which I didn't like at all. I can't see why something like this is developed at all. Maintaining KDE3 would have probably been easier faster and cheaper.<br />I am also a little disappointed by the oldish firefox version. I use Firefox nightly build from PPA, so it isn't a issue really, but it could be better.<br /><br />What I find most surprising, is that Mint 12 is not "mint" anymore: it lost that overall polished and consistent look even Fedora beats it at that. What it gives now, is the best gnome-shell setup I could find.Bruno9779https://www.blogger.com/profile/15384087964327571751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-45227401968697176842011-12-22T10:26:06.332+00:002011-12-22T10:26:06.332+00:00@Ray:
Have you tried any other distributions on th...@Ray:<br />Have you tried any other distributions on that laptop? What is comparison?DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-72958362186820802472011-12-22T01:51:25.221+00:002011-12-22T01:51:25.221+00:00I use it on a Dell Inspiron that previously had Vi...I use it on a Dell Inspiron that previously had Vista and it was seamless in it's installation and subsequent use. Love it greatly.Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09579785718863690174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-27592900284117530612011-12-21T22:10:07.076+00:002011-12-21T22:10:07.076+00:00@tracyanne:
I hope you mean de-grade to Mint 11, n...@tracyanne:<br />I hope you mean de-grade to Mint 11, not upgrade in this case.<br />I see your point about barge point. But there are large distributions with support of large companies (I mean Canonical -> Ubuntu, RedHad -> Fedora and Novell -> OpenSuSE) who push for new-wave interfaces.<br />I doubt many distributions will withstands the push.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-2129303914971140022011-12-20T23:24:53.735+00:002011-12-20T23:24:53.735+00:00I'll just ait until MATE is mature, then I'...I'll just ait until MATE is mature, then I'll upgrade to the latest version of Linux Mint. <br /><br />Until then, if MATE is not mature enough by the time Linux Mint 13 arrives (it's the next LTS version), I'll upgrade to Linux Mint 11 (the last version with a pure GNOME 2 Desktop), and wait until Linux Mint 14 or 15 is released, by which time hopefully MATE will be mature.<br /><br />Outside of a Tablet, or possibly a small screen, single monitor laptop. I wouldn't touch GNOME 3 Shell with a proverbial barge pole. On my high resolution multi monitor rig GNOME3 shell and UNITY are abominations.tracyannehttp://lxer.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-4125080278533130542011-12-20T10:01:25.983+00:002011-12-20T10:01:25.983+00:00@Gladys:
Yes, Chromium is in repository of Ubuntu,...@Gladys:<br />Yes, Chromium is in repository of Ubuntu, hence Mint.<br />But I intentively wanted to check whether Mint team fixed an issue with Chrome installer. They did not.<br />If you look at my <a href="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2011/10/adventures-in-ubuntu-1110-live.html" rel="nofollow">Adventures in Ubuntu 11.10 Live</a>, you would notice that Chrome appeared in the menu after reboot (persistence enabled). I assume Mint would behave similarly.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-82240222835264931652011-12-20T02:02:02.758+00:002011-12-20T02:02:02.758+00:00Your Chrome issue is due to your method of install...Your Chrome issue is due to your method of installation, Had you installed from the repository then that version would have added the appropriate icon in the menu. BTW a better choice would have been Chromium so as to use non-proprietary code, or SRWare Iron so as to block Google spying...both use the Chrome codebase.Gladyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04660182111237652420noreply@blogger.com