tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post7954323649066770223..comments2024-03-29T12:55:37.040+00:00Comments on Linux notes from DarkDuck: Disadvantages of Using LinuxDarkDuck (m)http://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-47053146619656079472012-07-30T13:07:08.619+01:002012-07-30T13:07:08.619+01:00Windows 7 Start doesn't offer the whole packag...Windows 7 Start doesn't offer the whole package and neither does Home Premium. To get all the bells and whistles you need to buy Windows 7 Ultimate.Assignment Helphttp://www.assignmenthelpexperts.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-69107020287937733332011-12-14T19:55:21.548+00:002011-12-14T19:55:21.548+00:00As I read this article I can't help but think ...As I read this article I can't help but think it's little more than a coincidence this FUD is being churned out again. Every single time Microsoft decides to put out a new version of Windows we have to put up with this crap. So lets debunk the main points then as presented in the article.<br /><br />No Standard Edition:<br />Really? Ubuntu is the immediate and obvious example that springs to mind for beginners. Linux Mint is another. Both based on Debian. Ubuntu is also the example I'd wager most GNU/Linux users will use when advising a noobie on which distribution to use first.So frankly I don't know where this "user-developed editions" nonsense is coming from.<br /><br />Windows has no "standard edition". Windows 7 has "Starter", "Home Premium", "Ultimate" and there are also a number of other options for students. Not to mention the Windows Server editions as well as other special editions like "Surface". And Windows CE. The mobile and embedded version of Windows that despite it's similar looking appearance hand an almost completely different code base to all other versions of Windows and was totally incompatible with any of them. The black sheep of the family.<br /><br />An important point to note with each new Windows version. They're not all 100% compatible. Windows 7 Start doesn't offer the whole package and neither does Home Premium. To get all the bells and whistles you need to buy Windows 7 Ultimate.<br /><br />The closest we get to the "standard edition OS" is Apple's Mac OS X. Which relies on fairly "standard" hardware configurations. It's only recently Macs have gained the power "full screen" applications. No joke. This was a feature announcement made not so long ago by Apple.<br /><br />Can we use Mac OS on non-Apple hardware? We can buy boxed or downloadable versions. But they must be installed on a Mac if we want to stay legal and avoid technical issues.<br /><br />That's what a "standard" OS looks like. Limited choice.<br /><br />Learning Curve:<br />What learning curve? Modern Linux distros use modern GUI's like Gnome Shell or Unity. Point, click application launches. That's it. It's not hard.<br /><br />The learning curve argument is bogus. It's bogus for consumer level users and bogus for IT professionals. All the same basic OS principles apply to GNU/Linux environments as apply to Windows or Mac. They're no different.<br /><br />Non-Compatible Software:<br />Bogus FUD! Open source software tends to be cross platform compatible. Opting for applications in the Windows or Mac worlds that depend on "lock-in" to maintain a user base is what creates incompatibility with software.<br /><br />If anything this is an education issue. Not a technical problem.<br /><br />Unsupported Hardware<br />OEMs write drivers for their primary target market first. Windows is the incumbent so it's get first pick of new consumer hardware. Why is this surprising? It's an issue that affects all OSs.<br /><br />Tech Support:<br />Linux has paid for tech support. In fact services like tech support are how Linux companies like Red Hat and Canonical make money.<br /><br />The tech support argument is pure FUD!<br /><br />The Motive:<br />So what is the motive behind dragging all this FUD up again? And Lisa, how does moving to FreeBSD or any other BSD improve the situation? Aren't they even more obscure than GNU/Linux?aikiwolfiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08257742942798609981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-9063154156938665252011-12-13T04:13:33.536+00:002011-12-13T04:13:33.536+00:00Don't take the fanbois' remarks to heart, ...Don't take the fanbois' remarks to heart, Lisa. Your points are well-taken. (And I'm computer science PhD and avid Linux user.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-74974696674086266172011-12-09T20:10:05.254+00:002011-12-09T20:10:05.254+00:00Linux does have a standard edition, it's the o...Linux does have a standard edition, it's the one hosted at kernel.org.<br />There is no linux operating system, there never was.<br /><br />There is the Debian GNU/Linux operating system, which is an operating system using (amongst many others), parts of the GNU operating system project, and the Linux kernel.<br />There are many other operating systems that use the Linux kernel and parts of the GNU system. There are also many operating systems using the Linux kernel without GNU, and there are operating systems using parts of GNU but no linux kernel (bsd for example), there are also other Unix and unix likes out there and they are each and every one their own operating system.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-12775732484219604742011-12-06T21:19:23.806+00:002011-12-06T21:19:23.806+00:001-RHEL
2-RHEL
3-depends on your favourite software...1-RHEL<br />2-RHEL<br />3-depends on your favourite software some of that in linux wont run in windows guess you are still screwed<br />4-RHEL<br />5-RHEL (nero for your bluray not that you need it)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-86517155995207941832011-12-06T14:49:59.377+00:002011-12-06T14:49:59.377+00:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-58417548208423616362011-12-06T14:48:31.182+00:002011-12-06T14:48:31.182+00:00I am not trying to be crass here, however, on the ...I am not trying to be crass here, however, on the software side of things you are exactly right. It being hard to use is a non issue if the applications existed. If the developers would quit developing Linux and developed for Linux, we would have some applications and games worth using. The fact remains that we don't so I will be sticking to OSX/Windows.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-84932202414055166972011-12-06T13:53:22.052+00:002011-12-06T13:53:22.052+00:00This post (by Lisa) is great. Why didn't I kno...This post (by Lisa) is great. Why didn't I know of this before?<br /><br />Issues brought out by these articles should be addressed, and not swept under the carpet. I'm always working on improving GNU/Linux and one of the best ways is to find out what is wrong with it.<br /><br />Kudos to DarkDuck for posting this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-55376283523809158732011-12-06T01:34:55.314+00:002011-12-06T01:34:55.314+00:00Linux is weak for the same reasons it is strong. ...Linux is weak for the same reasons it is strong. Linux will never be strong on the desktop as it is not designed for the desktop. <br /><br />1.Linux is diverse and pervasive throughout an astounding number of tech applications. Again, it is not focused on the desktop as it is not focused anywhere.<br /><br />2. Programs that are free, as in free speech are important to some. IMO the average desktop user, uses programs to get work done. I for example, find a few programs I am interested in and then try them out. If they are open source or closed source I could not care at all....really. The rhetoric concerning open source in a positive or negative light is really inconsequential to many. Oh, do I need proof?<br /><br />3. Linux is strong because it has a community that cares about itself and wishes to improve upon itself. Not exactly, a weakness but Linux definitely needs the community. I could use windows without ever reading documentation prior to starting. This is a strength and a weakness for Windows. I can easily start t up and I can easily mess it up "while feeling confident".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-46899947043906789602011-12-05T15:41:47.769+00:002011-12-05T15:41:47.769+00:00@Anonymous:
Опять опечатка в имени. 8-)
Он у меня ...@Anonymous:<br />Опять опечатка в имени. 8-)<br />Он у меня всегда колеблется. Но колебания всегда ведут к его повышению.<br />Спасибо за Ваш комментарий на русском языке.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-30134283945594741192011-12-05T15:38:23.702+00:002011-12-05T15:38:23.702+00:00@Dimitry, Ваш авторитет колеблется@Dimitry, Ваш авторитет колеблетсяAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-6639829565707711062011-12-05T15:27:41.422+00:002011-12-05T15:27:41.422+00:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-90796606538566870862011-12-05T15:20:15.846+00:002011-12-05T15:20:15.846+00:00@Anonymous:
First, my name is Dmitry.
Second, I an...@Anonymous:<br />First, my name is Dmitry.<br />Second, I answered to your question in my self-response to this post: <a href="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2011/12/advantages-of-using-linux.html" rel="nofollow">http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2011/12/advantages-of-using-linux.html</a>DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-38621333828041900802011-12-05T15:14:18.695+00:002011-12-05T15:14:18.695+00:00Dimitri, as respected as you are, why on Earth wou...Dimitri, as respected as you are, why on Earth would you let someone be a guest commenter on your informative site without vetting them first?<br /><br />I get the feeling that this guest commenter is not a real person, but a made up one to generate visits to your website.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-39833326782135997062011-12-05T14:44:01.986+00:002011-12-05T14:44:01.986+00:00Lisa Hann, I think you forgot to RTFM.Lisa Hann, I think you forgot to RTFM.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-30408310980439702852011-12-05T14:06:40.406+00:002011-12-05T14:06:40.406+00:00@FitoPlancton:
This one looks and works exactly l...@FitoPlancton:<br /><br />This one looks and works exactly like WinAmp: <a href="http://audacious-media-player.org/" rel="nofollow">Audacious</a><br />I also looked for the WinAmp-style player in Linux in the very beginning. But when I saw <a href="http://www.videolan.org/vlc/" rel="nofollow">VLC</a>, my preferences changed.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-88964473776997043312011-12-05T13:59:45.448+00:002011-12-05T13:59:45.448+00:00... I never found a player just like Winamp for Li...... I never found a player just like Winamp for Linux... for me, that's a definitive disadvantage.FitoPlanctonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-11890329836446579552011-11-30T18:46:47.536+00:002011-11-30T18:46:47.536+00:00Interesting article insomuch as it's bizarre y...Interesting article insomuch as it's bizarre you let someone with such a poor knowledge of Linux loose to pen an article like that. Linux does not need rocket scientists to install and use, just the ability to read and take instructions. <br /><br />The criticisms are negligible and could be applied to all three OS's mentioned, not just Linux, with the exception of the driver availability issue for new hardware, and as all members of the Linux community are aware, these are not generally numerous and do get 'fixed' one way or another. <br /><br />Software, well, if over 30,000 free software packages aren't enough and you can't find something out of that lot to do the task in hand then it's a sad day indeed. . . . . . And the learning curve . . . well that just sets you up to make you stronger and your system more secure, don't know if I'm alone but I sleep a lot better with a Linux distro on my laptop . . . . :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-20091597866299704482011-11-30T00:35:26.239+00:002011-11-30T00:35:26.239+00:00The article is incorrectly titled. Nothing listed...The article is incorrectly titled. Nothing listed is a disadvantage to using Linux.<br /><br />If you never had any computer experience before, all the items listed here would be true of any system you chose.<br /><br />I think the hardest change, with the steepest learning curve, is for a Microsoft products user to move to a Mac.Asynchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00287001698993178575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-10862209268878041962011-11-29T06:50:51.881+00:002011-11-29T06:50:51.881+00:00DarkDuck, you are showing only one side of the coi...DarkDuck, you are showing only one side of the coin and I take the risk of assuming that you were looking for attention using points that you knew were going to touch some people's nerves. I bet you also know that when it comes to Linux and Open Source, you will always find some strong feelings and emotions. There are more constructive things to do other than to instigate old confrontations or than to discourage new people from using Linux. Get a life. A real one.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02476931992867080501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-15119278041130981142011-11-29T06:23:44.476+00:002011-11-29T06:23:44.476+00:00Things not mentioned: 1) When you get over any cha...Things not mentioned: 1) When you get over any challenge you face with Linux, you get a rock solid powerful system that is almost not vulnerable to virus and spyware. I said almost. It can last you many years with minimal or no problems. 2) There is Linux software available that can go beyond some MS or Mac software in functionality even though there is a learning curve and some buggy ones. 3) You can build high performance servers for free. As a matter of fact, I own a high performing web/ftp server with WordPress that I run from home. 4) Linux systems do not need defragmentation and most times their speed do not decrease. 5) Tons of good free software. 6) Super fast OS update process. 7) The Linux built in firewall is one of the most powerful of all. 8) If you like learning and have the patience, and you decide to learn Linux, you can pretty much handle almost any challenge as your experience grows. 9) Linux is at the top most powerful super computers in the world. There are reasons for that. 10) If you dig and open yourself to others, you can grow some long lasting friendships and mentors as there is a portion of the community committed to give to society and others without expecting things back. Don't forget that kindness should not be taken as a weakness. 11) There are different Linux flavors to please different purposes, likes or wants.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02476931992867080501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-52350796025770884182011-11-29T04:56:56.848+00:002011-11-29T04:56:56.848+00:00Oh, yes!
Linux is not perfect. But you know what? ...Oh, yes!<br />Linux is not perfect. But you know what? <br />Windows - too. <br />Actually what is your problem? Are you trying to help people who "straggling" with Linux?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16186797216054700358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-7217928534802790512011-11-29T00:54:59.963+00:002011-11-29T00:54:59.963+00:00Lisa Hann If you think for one minute Linux has a ...Lisa Hann If you think for one minute Linux has a hard learning curve then you have a lot of empty space between your hears to say the least, I started using Linux at the age of 65, my only problem at that time was the file names, has for everything else it's no different from windows, you use common sense it's all point and click. Click on the menu bar, click on the application you want to run, nothing can be more simpler than that,<br /><br />Last weekend I installed Commodore OS Vision on a computer that's owned by a 82yr old, it worked out of the box, Everything is on the 3D task bar that he needs, firefox web browser, word, email, Skype It took me less than half an hour to show him the ropes on the desktop. Which is very similar to Mac OS/x desktop but far more superior,<br /><br />I left him to play with his new operating system, While I was talking to his son in another room He came and said he had messed up the desktop, that he had clicked on something and the task bar had gone, I took him back to the computer and showed him that on the top task bar there are Icons that fixes problems like that, One is for refreshing the desktop graphics, this icon restored the desktop back to normal, another one, should a program lock up it will close down the programs without having to do a hard reboot,<br /><br />Lisa if you think Linux desktop is confusing then just wait until you see and use widows 8, If you can work windows 8 desktop out on your own in under one hour and open up any application then you'll be good, You can go to MS website and download windows 8 and try it out on your own and see how far you get with it. <br /><br />I must mention windows 8 don't crash you get a pop up that says “ windows as found a problem with your hardware” and will now reboot. What it should say is “ Windows has a problem with your hardware drivers” My systems is the latest Intel i5 system so there should be no problems what so ever with the hardware, Then again I am using windows 8 which still freezes up and crashesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-55283171466257964982011-11-28T23:53:28.371+00:002011-11-28T23:53:28.371+00:00Linux has too many inner "wars" like
* O...Linux has too many inner "wars" like<br />* OSS vs ALSA vs PulseAudio<br />* Gnome vs Unity vs KDE etc<br />* Ubuntu vs Fedora etc<br />* PolicyKit/SELinux etc.<br />Non-standard parts make it extremely hard to have a non-trivial program work and look consistently across even the main Linux configurations.<br />Even ubiquitous programs like Skype generally work much less stable on Linux than on the other two mainstream platforms.<br />No wonder, though. Linux is all about passion and customization, creating extremely different combinations of software used by a tiny number of users (mainly hardcore geeks). In Linux many thing just work, but almost nothing is guaranteed to work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-64319298195757317452011-11-28T21:49:07.919+00:002011-11-28T21:49:07.919+00:00If I had to switch to OSX, I could say exactly the...If I had to switch to OSX, I could say exactly the same things - except maybe for the standard edition - it's true that a newcomer ay find distrowatch.com scary ;-)<br /><br />So ok, you're right ... but so what ?<br /><br />Talking about leaning curve ... you should know that everything you learn on linux is very easily ported to OSX, who is a 'nix itself.<br /><br />Hardware support ? Software compatibility ? You can't be serious here.<br />Tech support ? OMG ! Linux distros are more (and well) documented. (documentation, you know, the thing missing from any other os ;-) ), plus forums are numerous.<br /><br /><br />Now talk about long time support ...<br />Remember those days when microsoft decided Vista would no more support your legacy hardware ? <br /><br />All and all I said you're right for any OS, but you would be even more right the other way 'round ;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com