tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post6465380823698841023..comments2024-03-29T12:55:37.040+00:00Comments on Linux notes from DarkDuck: Fedora 15 with GNOME 3: better than Ubuntu 11.04 with Unity, but...DarkDuck (m)http://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-70756400859342006372012-05-01T20:22:54.815+01:002012-05-01T20:22:54.815+01:00Try this link. It is ubuntu gnome shell without un...Try this link. It is ubuntu gnome shell without unity.<br /><br />http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Operating-Systems/Linux-Distributions/Ubuntu-GNOME-Shell-Remix-74925.shtmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-50550015305221399512011-12-09T21:30:23.272+00:002011-12-09T21:30:23.272+00:00@Anonymous:
I think both Fedora and Ubuntu deserve...@Anonymous:<br />I think both Fedora and Ubuntu deserve their piece of the pie. Just a different systems, both wih pros and contras.<br />For me, neither is good to permanently switch to, and I stay with Mageia.<br />Thanks for commenting!DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-73947101935887685132011-12-09T20:30:15.684+00:002011-12-09T20:30:15.684+00:00The gnome-tweak-tool is kind of unstable right now...The gnome-tweak-tool is kind of unstable right now. Some combinations of options crash it real bad.<br />It will most likely be part of gnome3 by default when they work around some of its issues.<br />I have just switched from Ubuntu to Fedora 16 and I am not completely happy with either:<br /><br />-Gnome3 feels incomplete, IMHO it wasn't ready to be released, but Unity's release and inclusion in Ubuntu has forced them to release it as it is.<br />Still, it is responsive and intuitive. I hope the developement speeds up a bit and it's true potential is brought out.<br /><br />-Unity IMHO is just bad design. Unconsistent, ugly and slow. The only design concern seems to be backward compiz compatibility.<br />furthermore I loathe those I-product square icons so much I HAD to switch to something else.<br /><br />Now, once I overcome the different package names between rpm and deb, I will be happy to stay with FedoraAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-26621961468882578752011-10-30T22:54:21.471+00:002011-10-30T22:54:21.471+00:00@Parshuram:
You are right. G3 is like step-son in ...@Parshuram:<br />You are right. G3 is like step-son in Ubuntu...DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-36468009547192981512011-10-30T22:51:48.831+00:002011-10-30T22:51:48.831+00:00As a matter of personal preference I like to have ...As a matter of personal preference I like to have Ubuntu under the hood. I am familiar with Ubuntu and as an advanced desktop user, I can find my way around it. I have no idea how to deal with yum and some other aspects of Linux flavours that I'm not used to. #2 community support on Ubuntu is A.M.A.Z.ING....no two ways about that.<br /><br />I really hate the Unity interface, it keeps crashing and it is slow. But I've already installed Gnome-3 shell on Ubuntu 11.10. I have a niggle in the back of my mind that this is not a clean install of the OS, and there is still pieces of code that are there and useless!Parshuramhttp://www.google.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-50555522937048173072011-10-30T22:46:35.424+00:002011-10-30T22:46:35.424+00:00@Anonymous:
Maybe the issue is not in OS, but rath...@Anonymous:<br />Maybe the issue is not in OS, but rather in your hardware and yourself? I installed GNOME3 on Ubuntu 11.10 and it worked for me for few days while I was writing <a href="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2011/10/gnome3-vs-unity-on-ubuntu-1110-my-score.html" rel="nofollow">this</a>.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-91393963236043988472011-10-29T02:27:49.977+01:002011-10-29T02:27:49.977+01:00Ubuntu 11.1 sucks because of this unity thing and ...Ubuntu 11.1 sucks because of this unity thing and there is no option for using "classic desktop". I tried to install gnome-shell in vain. it gives me error:<br /><br />"There seems to be a programming error in aptdaemon, the software that allows you to install/remove software and to perform other package management related tasks."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-72543571169509131112011-10-18T02:23:48.267+01:002011-10-18T02:23:48.267+01:00I use Compiz as a standalone Window Manager on my ...I use Compiz as a standalone Window Manager on my Fedora 15.<br />I installed with the LXDE spin though so that I could fall back on Openbox in case compiz crashes. I only ever use CD's for installation.Spyke180http://www.gaiaonline.com/profiles/spyke180/31928439/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-3008081975083233022011-10-12T05:47:51.417+01:002011-10-12T05:47:51.417+01:00One thing you cannot do without: A Taskbar
Install...One thing you cannot do without: A Taskbar<br />Install and run: "gnome-panel --replace".<br />This will give you a top and a bottom panel; the top one covered over by the default panel.<br />Install and run: "dconf-editor"<br />Edit: org -> gnome -> gnome-panel -> layout -> toplevels -> top-panel<br />Set option to auto-hide the top panel, and that gets it out of the way at the top.<br />Alt/right-click on the bottom panel and choose the Options;<br />set Background to "Solid Color"; choose black (rgb:000); set Style to 60% transparant.<br />Alt/right-click and choose 'Add to panel'; search for 'Main Menu' and 'Add';<br />Alt/right-clock on the new 'Main Menu' icon, and select 'Move', than drag the icon to the leftmost corner on the taskbar.<br />Add other items as needed.<br />To startup the newly configured taskbar upon login:<br />run 'gnome-session-properties' and Add 'gnome-panel --replace'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-14830750327263181192011-09-27T23:08:20.995+01:002011-09-27T23:08:20.995+01:00@Anonymous:
Samba is already included into Fedora....@Anonymous:<br />Samba is already included into Fedora. Actually I meant another issue which I found while looking at Fedora KDE: <br />http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2011/05/fedora-15-kde-when-new-old-is-better.html<br />It is linked to shutdown of system with wireless connection to network and mounted network drive. Look at the very end of that article.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-21132838225893897592011-09-27T22:58:14.008+01:002011-09-27T22:58:14.008+01:00Oh, BTW, if you want auto network discovery, like ...Oh, BTW, if you want auto network discovery, like for HP Printers, other network resources, install avahi. <br /><br />Great tool and makes network discovery brainless :)<br /><br />JoeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-72725321497489802312011-09-27T22:56:10.460+01:002011-09-27T22:56:10.460+01:00Ahh, yes, I see that now...
To fix network issue ...Ahh, yes, I see that now...<br /><br />To fix network issue (Had to do this last night) install samba-client. This will give you smbclient and also integration with Gnome. <br /><br />Don't forget to change your /etc/samba/smb.conf to point to your network (Wins services, domain/workgroup, etc.)<br /><br />Like I mentioned, Fedora is complete - to a point, and allows you to customize as you wish. Allot more complete than Arch, though :-D.<br /><br />Also, you might try adding the rpmfusion repo so you get the latest firefox and other software. I'm on 6.0.2 atm - also, thunderbird 6.<br /><br />Hope this helps.<br /><br />JoeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-21394890544935640262011-09-27T22:43:08.860+01:002011-09-27T22:43:08.860+01:00@Anonymous:
I ditched Ubuntu, but not for Fedora. ...@Anonymous:<br />I ditched Ubuntu, but not for Fedora. Fedora 15 has same issues with mounting of network drives as Ubuntu. That's unacceptable for me. See the post.<br />My current configuration is Mageia + Debian + Salix.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-47501360098716393282011-09-27T22:28:13.795+01:002011-09-27T22:28:13.795+01:00Hi DarkDuck!
I ditched Ubuntu also for Fedora and...Hi DarkDuck!<br /><br />I ditched Ubuntu also for Fedora and have been quite happy. Ubuntu made me lazy as a Linux user and when issues would crop up, I didn't know what to do but hit the forums. <br /><br />Fedora is complete, but allows you to add what you want and the users are generally a little more technical on the forums when you need help. <br /><br />I had a big issue with Ubuntu and Gnome 3 (Will not try Unity EVER :-D) and the guys on the Ubuntu forums basically said that my issue was actually a feature... This turned me off totally.<br /><br />Anyway, good review and, BTW, start a forum :-D.<br /><br />JoeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-44958792797758126842011-09-25T21:03:46.462+01:002011-09-25T21:03:46.462+01:00@Anonymous:
Thanks for another solution.
Have you ...@Anonymous:<br />Thanks for another solution.<br />Have you tried <a href="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2011/05/fedora-15-with-gnome-3-better-than.html?showComment=1313993335921#c751937107649400851" rel="nofollow">previous one</a>?DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-50484125598718401832011-09-25T04:46:26.444+01:002011-09-25T04:46:26.444+01:00This look like I fix for the MP3 Thing, havn't...This look like I fix for the MP3 Thing, havn't tried it as yet though:<br />http://dfcowell.net/2011/06/multimedia-on-fedora-15-mp3-mp4-support/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-51790424624113755542011-09-07T11:30:47.146+01:002011-09-07T11:30:47.146+01:00@Anonymous:
Unfortunately, not all the Ubuntu upda...@Anonymous:<br />Unfortunately, not all the Ubuntu updates are smooth. I had to do some tweaks after updates when I was using Ubuntu.<br />I left it for other distributions and there is no intention to return back.<br />Basically, Unity is not my cup of cha, that's why my current installation has systems with GNOME (Debian), KDE (Mageia) and XFCE (Mint).DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-77534722473305625782011-09-07T11:27:03.737+01:002011-09-07T11:27:03.737+01:00I use to use Fedora, and when I used it, it worked...I use to use Fedora, and when I used it, it worked well, however it failed to upgrade smoothly and I had a damaged system that had a non working X. This was about the time that Ubuntu started to gain ground. I dont like unity, but there is no way that I am going back to Fedora. It simply does not have enough momentum behind it; its an old style distro that is very large. In order to get Ubuntu users back, if they even want them, they are going to have to offer something really compelling. Of course, they might not want Ubuntu users back, and if they do not, then this is a perfect example of why I cant consider spending time trying to run a Fedora system. All my stuff works now, updates are smooth, and there is no advantage in running Fedora. Gnome 3 looks like Unitiy; a bad idea, so there is no reason for me to jump ship in terms of the UI. If gnome had not gone this ill considered route, Fedora would have a compelling reason to switch back, but now, there is just no point, no gain and alot of hassle for nothing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-58373057129933793232011-08-29T22:02:44.446+01:002011-08-29T22:02:44.446+01:00@Angmar26:
Thanks for sharing!
RPMfusion is one of...@Angmar26:<br />Thanks for sharing!<br />RPMfusion is one of the famous unofficial repositories for Fedora. you're right. You can get tons from there.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-61756334048308910862011-08-26T05:05:03.905+01:002011-08-26T05:05:03.905+01:00For Fedora distributive's very usefull to add ...For Fedora distributive's very usefull to add RPM Fusion repo (http://rpmfusion.org/), it's grant a whole bunch of newly programs including a non-free, and at this point you have access to similar to Ubuntu repos. I also recommend YumEx as graphical suit for yum, very versatile, can use yum-plugins.Angmar26https://www.blogger.com/profile/05064502234751564404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-69544726294547202002011-08-22T08:25:52.233+01:002011-08-22T08:25:52.233+01:00@FreewheelinFrank: thanks for the link to your use...@FreewheelinFrank: thanks for the link to your useful article! I'm sure you help lots of people with this info.<br />And special thanks for linking back to my blog. :-)DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-7519371076494008512011-08-22T07:08:55.921+01:002011-08-22T07:08:55.921+01:00Thanks for the interesting review. I agree with yo...Thanks for the interesting review. I agree with your conclusions about Gnome 3. <br /><br />In the dialogue box that informs of the unsuccessful search for an MP3 plugin, there's a "More information" button that will open Firefox at a page giving an explanation and a route to installing the necessary plugin. I did a quick walk-though with screen shots here:<br /><br />http://dontsurfinthenude.blogspot.com/2011/08/mp3-in-fedora-15.htmlFreewheelinFrankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02747785651547255621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-9683249530924552262011-06-02T13:31:24.657+01:002011-06-02T13:31:24.657+01:00@Anonymous:
Thanks for compliments!
Is it this pag...@Anonymous:<br />Thanks for compliments!<br />Is it <a href="http://www.dnmouse.org/autoten/index.php" rel="nofollow">this page</a> you're talking about?DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-19594149212461991012011-06-02T02:54:44.350+01:002011-06-02T02:54:44.350+01:00Nice review
FYI:
there's a guy names "dan...Nice review<br />FYI:<br />there's a guy names "dangermouse" that releases a post install script called "fedoraplus" which provides a GUI to resolved just about everything you got tripped up on.<br /><br />MattAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-23028521427265033802011-06-01T10:24:14.291+01:002011-06-01T10:24:14.291+01:00@Anonymous:
Everyone has his own preferences... If...@Anonymous:<br />Everyone has his own preferences... If you prefer Unity, just use it. If not, you have ocean of options, from GNOME 3 to KDE 3 and Enlightenment.<br />That's Linux.DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.com