tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post2100680764796511999..comments2024-03-18T10:43:28.122+00:00Comments on Linux notes from DarkDuck: 4 Terribly Easy Steps To Move Away From Unity In Ubuntu 11.04DarkDuck (m)http://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comBlogger60125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-76660363501602551472012-01-02T22:09:51.891+00:002012-01-02T22:09:51.891+00:00@Baban Gaigole:
11.10 is very different story...@Baban Gaigole:<br />11.10 is very different story...DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-4662372277454717632012-01-02T09:19:58.548+00:002012-01-02T09:19:58.548+00:00since 11.10 unity and gnome3 just look alike and h...since 11.10 unity and gnome3 just look alike and have same complicated features compared to previous ubuntu distros. I too dont hate unity but i think they should listen to what users demand and complaint.Baban Gaigolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10440029644921138328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-29972516099671257052011-12-02T22:13:57.436+00:002011-12-02T22:13:57.436+00:00@Daniel Watrous:
This tutorial is valid for Ubuntu...@Daniel Watrous:<br />This tutorial is valid for Ubuntu 11.04. If you're using 11.10, there are 2 points to mention: a) GNOME2 is not available for 11.10, and b) menu items have changed in 11.10.<br />So, please don't look for something that does not exist.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-87278487609832847592011-12-02T17:53:56.183+00:002011-12-02T17:53:56.183+00:00I must be a total newb, but I can't figure out...I must be a total newb, but I can't figure out how to "Call up application "Login screen"" in ubuntu 11. How exactly do I open that up? <br /><br />I'm also not sure where users and groups is...Daniel Watroushttp://www.danielwatrous.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-48084210014476928822011-08-29T22:08:09.954+01:002011-08-29T22:08:09.954+01:00@Anonymous:
Debian is classic. It's less "...@Anonymous:<br />Debian is classic. It's less "user-friendly" than Ubuntu. And it's less dynamic. But once you learnt basics with Ubuntu, you can easily switch to Debian... back to parents... ;)DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-81111874090914271372011-08-29T22:06:07.540+01:002011-08-29T22:06:07.540+01:00@Anonymous:
Thanks for the long comment.
My Ubuntu...@Anonymous:<br />Thanks for the long comment.<br />My Ubuntu is now gone. But not because of Unity. There are some other reasons... 8-)<br />Linux is famous for its choice. If you don't like Unity, don't use it. If you still like Ubuntu, switch to Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu or any other *buntu. That's it.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-12645046701285526792011-08-27T01:11:21.746+01:002011-08-27T01:11:21.746+01:00Seeing Unity as hardly avoidable in 11.10, I decid...Seeing Unity as hardly avoidable in 11.10, I decided that the time has come and left Ubuntu for Debian. Having separate home partition, and plus few tricks to keep custom configs, it is done in a flash - you can even keep your wallpaper (not to mention hundreds of diffrent settings) if you use one. <br />As for DE, I use ion3/notion, and while GNOME is quite tolerable (I like to use it from time to time when I have some light stuff to do), UNITY is a sorry excuse. <br />And to make this worse, I hear they also want to remove Synaptic in 11.10, replacing it by their shitty software-center, as to make the noobs unable to remove Unity completely. <br />Not to mention other piles of crap that's been bugging me for years (I've been on Ubuntu since 2006), like pulseaudio, Ubuntu One, Evolution, silly notifications...etc, etc. Well, I guess if you've learned your lesson using Ubuntu, so you know your way around the config files, packaging system and so on, then Debian is a rational continuation. Down with Canonical treating people like M$ does.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-25282585967309608862011-08-26T09:12:08.382+01:002011-08-26T09:12:08.382+01:00Unity is excellent ... for netbooks.
If you find...Unity is excellent ... for netbooks. <br /><br />If you find computers generally bothersome and want to just browse the internet in peace on your ... network appliance ... then unity is definitely for you. However if you would prefer something more like an actual computer then it may not be your cup of tea.<br /><br />I'm using 11.04 with the classic desktop because unity makes me want to hurl my laptop through the window. Unfortunately the outlook isn't good. 11.10 is worse, with no escape provided this time via a classic desktop option. I won't be installing it.<br /><br />Yes I know 11.10 was all about switching to Gnome 3 under the hood with no time to tweak the user interface. But I AM disappointed that there is absolutely no sign that criticisms of unity have been listened to and taken on board.<br /><br />It is like they are going to MAKE us eat this stuff we don't like. I have visions of a bad parent ramming their two year olds face repeatedly into their plate in an effort to make them eat their peas. You. Must. Like. Peas! Peas are. YUMMY! Eat your peas you little shit!<br /><br />It isn't so much that the design of unity completely sucks. Only parts of it completely suck. Other parts are quite good. And if I could choose to use only those parts and turn off or reconfigure the bits that annoy me I'd be very happy. The problem is that unity won't let you do that in the name of having a "consistent desktop experience".<br /><br />I HATE macintosh style unified menus - they might work - maybe - on a cellphone or possibly a kiddies toy, but they make no sense at all on a large multiscreen desktop. But ... "Eat your Peas!" ... there is no way to disable them. <br /><br />Unity is an equal opportunity annoyer. It has something to annoy everyone. And since there is no way to change anything the most consistent part of the "consistent desktop experience" is that people are consistently annoyed.<br /><br />If ubuntu won't recognise and start to fix the problem by 12.04, then that's it. Sad. I've been a user since Hardy. But if they keep driving full speed down this road, well they are obviously heading somewhere I don't want to go so there will have to be a parting of ways.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-35077131683839690722011-08-16T12:06:46.742+01:002011-08-16T12:06:46.742+01:00@shiliarr95:
Thanks for sharing the link. Very int...@shiliarr95:<br />Thanks for sharing the link. Very interesting and promising.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-54959983265084288422011-08-16T12:04:27.111+01:002011-08-16T12:04:27.111+01:00If you hate Unity but love the desktop effect, I s...If you hate Unity but love the desktop effect, I suggest Downgrading Compiz to ver 0.8.6 which will uninstall Unity in the process and Install AWN as main Panel (http://shiliarr95z.weebly.com/2/post/2011/07/how-to-downgrade-compiz.html). If you prefer less resources, I suggest you turn your attention to Openbox and you can shape it all you like.Donie Octorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16735022936020213112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-27162089488657041812011-06-13T14:26:35.685+01:002011-06-13T14:26:35.685+01:00@Mr Z.
Thanks for sharing a link.
If you want to s...@Mr Z.<br />Thanks for sharing a link.<br />If you want to switch from Ubuntu, you can also consider Debian or <a href="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2011/06/mageia-is-it-kind-of-magic.html" rel="nofollow">Mageia</a>. First is very close in ideology to Ubuntu (Ubuntu is based ib Debian). Second is just new fork on Mandriva roots.DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-51631656936260097692011-06-13T04:52:36.670+01:002011-06-13T04:52:36.670+01:00If Ubuntu 11.10 only ships with Unity, that is the...If Ubuntu 11.10 only ships with Unity, that is the end of Ubuntu for me. I will switch to Fedora.<br />I regard Unity as a major backward step.<br />A lot of extra clicking to get apps launched and the placement of the application toolbar on the top of the screen is one of the worst GUI "feature" of the MAC OS.<br /><br />Fortunately I found an easy and straight forward way to uninstall Ubuntu from my dual boot machine.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUgf84bdYvgMr Z.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-45631232736236310832011-05-11T16:03:58.471+01:002011-05-11T16:03:58.471+01:00@Roger Heberle
I know 2 variants for Gubuntu: eith...@Roger Heberle<br />I know 2 variants for Gubuntu: either Gaming Ubuntu or Google Ubuntu. In either case it has nothing to do with Canonical, except for taking source code for further tweaks.DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-67878470188997403462011-05-11T15:58:42.207+01:002011-05-11T15:58:42.207+01:00Why don't they create a Gubuntu edition?Why don't they create a Gubuntu edition?Roger Heberlenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-24562045458975926672011-05-10T16:10:55.098+01:002011-05-10T16:10:55.098+01:00@Boston Sean:
Holy wars are permanent between comp...@Boston Sean:<br />Holy wars are permanent between computer geeks. Windows vs Linux vs Mac. KDE vs GNOME. And so on.<br />Now we have another holy war: Unity vs other DEs.<br />Let it go, just stay away from the fire line.DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-38069153834241559022011-05-10T15:59:42.808+01:002011-05-10T15:59:42.808+01:00I just upgraded so I don't have a strong opini...I just upgraded so I don't have a strong opinion yet. I think it's a nice addition to the DE/WM's out there. I used to run Gentoo/Fluxbox. There's complete control over configuration! If Unity begins to slow me down I'll just put Flux on here and get back to business. Stop bitching and put some effort into your day to day OS. Linux based OS's are limitless!Boston Seanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16772063053791128478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-74051532392921008742011-05-08T22:19:35.539+01:002011-05-08T22:19:35.539+01:00@Anonymous (Ankur Joshi):
Agree. This behaviour of...@Anonymous (Ankur Joshi):<br />Agree. This behaviour of Canonical is similar to behaviour of Microsoft or Apple.DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-32264615288898772012011-05-08T20:13:10.775+01:002011-05-08T20:13:10.775+01:00Basic Q is ... Ubuntu needs to focus on being a be...Basic Q is ... Ubuntu needs to focus on being a best distribution & development related to make it better.<br /><br />It should not get themselves involved in developing just a flashy new GUI, which distorts their mission of focusing on "Distro" (If they really want develop something .. develop good Office Software ... OOo / LibreOffice still sucks)<br /><br />Alternatively if UNITY is being developed something for good, It doesnot mean UNITY has to be forced on users & Ubuntu MUST MUST MUST provide support & easy option to go back to Gnome 2 which is definitely more user friendly & more importantly .. STABLE.<br /><br />Forcing UNITY on users just because you have developed it seems like Cannonical is coping Microsoft which does the same with their proprietary s/w without giving users the freedom of selection !!! <br /><br />More than UNITY, I hate this attitude of UBUNTU & Cannonical<br /><br />---> Ankur JoshiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-10228586859827809572011-05-08T00:04:07.329+01:002011-05-08T00:04:07.329+01:00@Anonymous and everyone else:
Sorry I cannot answe...@Anonymous and everyone else:<br />Sorry I cannot answer all your comments in this post. I appreciate and thank you for your input. Hopefully, you'll continue reading this blog. Feel free to subscribe!DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-32377963595052869842011-05-08T00:02:59.397+01:002011-05-08T00:02:59.397+01:00@Mohomad:
You're right about Linux and choices...@Mohomad:<br />You're right about Linux and choices. Though, Canonical withdraws the choice when it takes GNOME away in 11.10. As for now, you have a choice, but that won't continue for long.DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-88954556636788424932011-05-08T00:00:09.733+01:002011-05-08T00:00:09.733+01:00@aYo ii:
Why not switch from GNOME to something di...@aYo ii:<br />Why not switch from GNOME to something different? I like Kubuntu. And XFCE is not bad at all, even close to GNOME in some aspects.DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-53168964592901604582011-05-07T23:56:07.297+01:002011-05-07T23:56:07.297+01:00@Blues Tea-Cha:
>if you are getting sick of get...@Blues Tea-Cha:<br />>if you are getting sick of getting jerked around by Canonical, it may be time to jump ship for Mint<br /><br />Taking in fact that some of Mint distros are based on Ubuntu, I would be cautious about this option in general.<br />Probably move up to Debian or Debian-based Mints?DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-19826674311592531382011-05-07T23:53:23.430+01:002011-05-07T23:53:23.430+01:00@Anonymous:
>we are facing the same problems, W...@Anonymous:<br />>we are facing the same problems, Work flow really goes down, and yet people is not able to config their own work environment. <br />Isn't it just learning curve? For both Unity and uses?DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-36659938635870195692011-05-07T23:50:04.720+01:002011-05-07T23:50:04.720+01:00@OpenSource:
>One day Ubuntu will fall from the...@OpenSource:<br />>One day Ubuntu will fall from the first place on Distrowatch.<br /><br />I don't agree. They can get nice portion of market with this new Unity. Those users who can migrate from Windows or Mac. But question is whether they really want these users... and whether community is ready to support them?DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-60051386360087179722011-05-07T23:46:16.872+01:002011-05-07T23:46:16.872+01:00@Scott:
>we really need to have the option to s...@Scott:<br />>we really need to have the option to stick with a stable classic style desktop if we want<br /><br />From one side, I agree with you. You need to have flexibility. From another, try to walk in Canonical's shoes. Do you really want them to support all previous versions of all DEs? Like KDE3, KDE4, GNOME2, GNOME3, plus new Unity? That would be horrendous task!DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.com