tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post7356320383139076972..comments2024-03-18T10:43:28.122+00:00Comments on Linux notes from DarkDuck: Does Linux Community Need Corruption?DarkDuck (m)http://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-87541883808494256072012-01-27T15:21:36.209+00:002012-01-27T15:21:36.209+00:00I am not sure about Mandriva, but most Linux insta...I am not sure about Mandriva, but most Linux installers do NOT allow you to choose which components to install. Definitely the case for Mageia, my favourite distro, which forked from Mandriva not so long ago.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-91081148034902383372012-01-27T07:50:31.109+00:002012-01-27T07:50:31.109+00:00If you don't want a lot of extra software from...If you don't want a lot of extra software from the install DVD, just don't install it. It's there for people who do want it and don't want to download it.astrologiehttp://astrologiechinoise-fr.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-18387262656841910522012-01-26T11:52:10.379+00:002012-01-26T11:52:10.379+00:00That makes me very suspicious if all these additio...That makes me very suspicious if all these additional Mbs are just price for new doubtful functionality, and if they were pushed to Mandriva 2011 by wish of new Mandriva management?Funeralshttp://www.orthodoxfunerals.com.aunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-50883423183176282052012-01-18T09:47:31.853+00:002012-01-18T09:47:31.853+00:00So what?
Management and ownership are two distinct...So what?<br />Management and ownership are two distinct things.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-21515155169432592732012-01-18T07:20:23.711+00:002012-01-18T07:20:23.711+00:00Arthur Akopyan and Rosalabs is managed by Dmitry K...Arthur Akopyan and Rosalabs is managed by Dmitry Komissarov, who was the director of PingWin Software.furniture los angeleshttp://maps.google.com/maps/place?q=YOUR+FURNITURE+NOW+LOS+ANGELES&cid=5034318954856978289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-57924141227142311782012-01-17T15:13:52.327+00:002012-01-17T15:13:52.327+00:00@Cheap Web Design:
Don't mix up promotion as a...@Cheap Web Design:<br />Don't mix up promotion as a result of fair and voluntary tender with pushing a product into government organisations because your company will be paid for support.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-63958507699260135332012-01-17T07:17:12.246+00:002012-01-17T07:17:12.246+00:00Who can promote company among public sector better...Who can promote company among public sector better than ex-minister, especially if we talk about Russia?Cheap Web Designhttp://www.totalcreation.co.uk/cheap%20web%20design.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-63422288898373550392012-01-11T10:16:42.023+00:002012-01-11T10:16:42.023+00:00@meet single people:
Yes, they do, but not with Ma...@meet single people:<br />Yes, they do, but not with Mandriva in that case. <a href="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/search/label/alt%20linux" rel="nofollow">Alt Linux</a> is more popular for school project.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-837376755552796012012-01-11T07:43:16.164+00:002012-01-11T07:43:16.164+00:00Russian experiments with Linux and open source in ...Russian experiments with Linux and open source in schools, too.meet single peoplehttp://www.cupid.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-49672993881831102762011-11-21T22:45:24.337+00:002011-11-21T22:45:24.337+00:00@Anonymous:
Funny enough, I am from UK as well. Bu...@Anonymous:<br />Funny enough, I am from UK as well. But I was born and lived most of my life in Russia. I know Russian realities.<br />That's why I still see no point to over-inflate distro size without actual need.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-90931996880890258292011-11-21T22:28:14.969+00:002011-11-21T22:28:14.969+00:00Hi from the UK. Gotta agree with DarkDuck here. Po...Hi from the UK. Gotta agree with DarkDuck here. Poor download speeds will test a users patience for obtaining a full featured OS over the interwebs.<br />I personally advocate a 'best of the field' choice selection (no dupes) of included software, no matter what the ISO size. This is fine for those with good BB of course, but postal service? Well okay if the infrastructure is that bad, but a minimal OS does allow easy, bandwidth friendly, selection of required apps.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-52419318506411736142011-09-19T22:59:11.009+01:002011-09-19T22:59:11.009+01:00@Grishnakh:
You are very right about option to buy...@Grishnakh:<br />You are very right about option to buy DVD from many available on-line stores. You won't believe, but I run one of those: <a href="http://buylinuxcds.co.uk" rel="nofollow">Buy Linux CDs</a>.<br />But from user's perspective, why should he need to buy/download whole DVD, if most of it is not needed?DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-41497109137013936772011-09-19T20:14:38.669+01:002011-09-19T20:14:38.669+01:00@DarkDuck: If you're stuck with a slow connec...@DarkDuck: If you're stuck with a slow connection, why are you stupidly downloading a whole DVD? Ever heard of the postal service? Just buy a DVD with your favorite Linux distro burned on it. Surely there's plenty of places that offer DVD-Rs with Linux for cheap prices. The postal service has far, far, far greater bandwidth than any network connection. The latency isn't so great though, but for installation DVDs that's not important.Grishnakhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-11730457040805918082011-09-14T11:23:37.626+01:002011-09-14T11:23:37.626+01:00@Anonymous:
Thanks for clever comment with nice SO...@Anonymous:<br />Thanks for clever comment with nice SOH.<br />Спасибо за толковый комментарий с хорошим чувством юмора.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-23819591927246252942011-09-14T11:20:02.978+01:002011-09-14T11:20:02.978+01:00Once upon a time, we the Russians sincerely believ...Once upon a time, we the Russians sincerely believed that our country was the world greatest and the hope of all Humanity. Now we sincerely believe that our government is the most corrupted, our mafia is the most cruel, and our destination is more doomed than any other. Thus, I tend to agree with each and every word of the article.<br /><br />However, I am surprised to see that the phone carriers here are better than there, including the US, and even our Internet access is second only to that of the Asian Tigers. We do not know what a locked phone is, BTW.<br /><br />So, corrupted or not, Reiman has real achievements and proven abilities. Will it help Linux or not remains to be seen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-84256744203213476532011-09-13T22:27:18.455+01:002011-09-13T22:27:18.455+01:00@Grishnakh:
Let me again disagree with you.
Why do...@Grishnakh:<br />Let me again disagree with you.<br />Why do I need to download DVD if I don't need most part of it?<br />Also, I'd like to mention that I have not noticed much changes or additions in Mandriva 2011 compared to Mandriva 2010.2 in terms of pre-packaged software. The only change is taskbar and menu. That makes me very suspicious if all these additional Mbs are just price for new doubtful functionality, and if they were pushed to Mandriva 2011 by wish of new Mandriva management?DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-8628754741089159512011-09-13T19:29:10.325+01:002011-09-13T19:29:10.325+01:00@darkduck: As I said before, the more popular soft...@darkduck: As I said before, the more popular software a distro sticks on its install media, the less people have to download. So if you're stuck with dial-up, you want a distro that stuffs as much software on their DVD as possible (and you definitely don't want to waste time with a CD), so you can just use that and not waste time downloading apps over dial-up. In fact, a multi-DVD package would be even better. But just because they're on the install media doesn't mean you have to actually install them all. All you seem to have talked about here is the size of the install media, which is utterly irrelevant; what's important is how much software is actually being installed, and what is it? Is it software you actually need for the system to run, or is it just extra junk you can uninstall?<br /><br />As for hardware, if you have a 100GB drive, that's still plenty for installing everything from a 4.7GB DVD and having 80-90% of your disk space free.<br /><br />I'm not pushing my habits on everyone, but you seem to be pushing your preferences on everyone by demanding a minimalist distro when there's no reason for one. If you don't want a lot of extra software from the install DVD, just don't install it. It's there for people who do want it and don't want to download it.Grishnakhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-77265936134341777272011-09-13T09:51:20.793+01:002011-09-13T09:51:20.793+01:00@Grishnakh:
Have you seen many cases when corrupti...@Grishnakh:<br />Have you seen many cases when corruption cases for top politicians were proven?<br />Will you believe that big powerful people will do anything "just for networking" when it concerns allocating of big piece of government budget? It is not necessary direct bag of money. It can be "roll-backs", indirect bribery, presents etc. Are they legal?<br /><br />My term "weight" relates to amount of kilobytes/megabytes for the distribution. In this case, Mandriva 2011 has 1.6Gb while Mandriva 2010.2 was less than 700Mb. I did not do detailed difference check, but top-level showed nothing strategically new, except for new taskbar and menu.<br />Your comment about terabytes is not very valid. You won't believe, but many people still use computers with 1-2 Gb of memory running with 1.5-2GHz processors, 60-100GB hard drives or even less. Also, not everyone has unlimited fast internet connection. Some areas of Russia, say, still only have dial-up connection as the only available option. That's why distribution size matters. If you like to stuff your HDD with tons of additional software, it is your preference. I don't judge you for this, but don't push your experience and habits to others.<br /><br />And anyway... thanks for your comment! I think every comment in this discussion matters!DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-29379189220265463312011-09-13T09:39:12.354+01:002011-09-13T09:39:12.354+01:00@Anonymous:
>The support of Russian (and North-...@Anonymous:<br />>The support of Russian (and North-Korean, and Chinese, and Cuban etc.) government to Linux is very well known and documented. <br />Support of American government to "democracy" is well know and documented (Vietnam, Panama, Kuwait, Iraq, Afghanistan).<br />Don't believe propaganda. Trust facts. And I have already mentioned at least couple of them where FOSS was not priority for Russian government.<br />I also know that at least some of Russian ministries use Windows as their desktop and server solution without any plans to change.<br />Both US and Russian (and many other) governments use Linux. RedHat in US Ministry of Defence, Alt Linux in some Russian schools etc.<br />Truth, as usual, is somewhere in the middle.<br /><br />That's why I started this discussion.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-12695995405811763282011-09-13T09:30:36.345+01:002011-09-13T09:30:36.345+01:00@Anonymous who continues:
This is my own blog and ...@Anonymous who continues:<br />This is my own blog and nobody told you it is a place for free speech. If you continue pushing your dirty messages here, I'll impose manual approval for comments. I think other readers won't be happy about this.<br /><br />For you and for anyone else.<br />The USA is not the only country in the world. Americans is not the only nation in the world.<br />Any negative comment mentioning people of other nations or leaving in certain countries (Jews, Israelis, Russians, Bulgarians, Australians...) can hurt honest and modest people leaving there. That's why I will never tolerate this behaviour and will always delete such comments.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-62359103561780604452011-09-13T05:58:01.694+01:002011-09-13T05:58:01.694+01:00How on earth is this "corruption"? Is t...How on earth is this "corruption"? Is the ex-minister actually handing bags of money to people in government to get them to select Mandriva for government computers? If not, then there's no corruption. It sounds to me like he's invested in Mandriva by contributing software to them from his own company, and then working on getting the government to select Mandriva, and that he's doing it using his contacts (i.e., he personally knows lots of people in the government). That's not corruption, that's called "networking". For it to be corruption, someone in the government has to be getting paid off to make a choice that's not in the government's best interest. There's nothing wrong with networking; people naturally like to work with people they already personally know, because there's a level of trust there that you don't have with strangers.<br /><br />If you want to see a government that's really corrupt, and probably the most corrupt in the world, look at the USA.<br /><br />And finally, what is all the vague BS about Mandriva being too big?<br />">You say oversized? In what way?<br />In the way that Mandriva 2011 weights twice more than Mandriva 2010."<br />Huh? Are you saying the Mandriva DVD actually has more mass than a standard DVD? I don't think that's possible. What'd they do, add a layer of lead to it?<br /><br />Or are you just talking about the software included by default? Software doesn't weigh anything. And who cares anyway? With everyone having 1TB hard drives, I fail to see what the problem is. More software doesn't make anything "bloated", unless you're actually running the software. One thing I usually do when I install a new distro version on my desktop PC is to install most of the games available (which is a LOT on a Debian-based distro), plus tons of other stuff I may or may not use. Why not? A few GB of hard drive space is nothing to me, and it doesn't slow down the system. Have you actually done a diff to see what was added, and what its real impact will be? You could make a really "lightweight" distro by leaving out Firefox, Open/LibreOffice, and many other useful and popular apps, but what's the point? Users will have to immediately download and install these apps to make their systems useful to them. A bigger install media (CD/DVD) with more software means less stuff they have to download.Grishnakhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-43818332697488929922011-09-13T02:41:42.386+01:002011-09-13T02:41:42.386+01:00The support of Russian (and North-Korean, and Chin...The support of Russian (and North-Korean, and Chinese, and Cuban etc.) government to Linux is very well known and documented. Looks like you are a bit outdated about your own country. An since the US government support to Windows is equally well known, then you can know where corruption is stronger.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-46054239062606435522011-09-13T02:32:12.935+01:002011-09-13T02:32:12.935+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-78032931335238211742011-09-13T02:29:55.366+01:002011-09-13T02:29:55.366+01:00Removing a post just because it criticizes the cor...Removing a post just because it criticizes the corruption schema active in US and UK shows how much freedom of speech and opinion is important for you, and how much you actually side with this corruption schema.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-79018208989342960962011-09-13T02:17:09.210+01:002011-09-13T02:17:09.210+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com