tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post5134841647579558233..comments2024-03-18T10:43:28.122+00:00Comments on Linux notes from DarkDuck: FreeSBIE: Is Devil Live or Dead?DarkDuck (m)http://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-67718868373843623392011-05-27T22:16:51.389+01:002011-05-27T22:16:51.389+01:00@jpli:
Thank you for links.
Unfortunately, second ...@jpli:<br />Thank you for links.<br />Unfortunately, second link does not work at all.<br />First takes me to the page where I can download OpenBSD spin, not official OpenBSD live version.<br />Anyway, I will have a look at it some time later.DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-90114053583629293542011-05-27T20:16:02.261+01:002011-05-27T20:16:02.261+01:00Hello,
Speaking of OpenBSD live-cd, some exist (e...Hello,<br /><br />Speaking of OpenBSD live-cd, some exist (even for the last one : 4.9) :<br /><br />http://openbsd.maroufi.net/download_en.shtml<br />http://www.jggimi.homeip.net/livecd/downloads.htm<br /><br />Cheers,jplinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-2758519345120568632011-05-24T22:29:08.224+01:002011-05-24T22:29:08.224+01:00@Anonymous:
You maybe lost your attention when sug...@Anonymous:<br />You maybe lost your attention when suggested using eSATA card for my <b>laptop</b>. I am smiling when trying to imaging how this card could stick out of the laptop's body.<br />As for your expectations for PC-BSD review, as well all other arguments contra my approach, Internet and *nix world is free as freedom. If you don't want to read my reviews, that is your right. I can't make you read them.<br />Other people find them useful and interesting - that is their decision. Yours may be different.DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-11525701004559403592011-05-24T22:05:36.760+01:002011-05-24T22:05:36.760+01:00@DarkDuck, looked at the linked reasons why you st...@DarkDuck, looked at the linked reasons why you stick to Live versions, and I think I have to say it looks more like you are sticking with Live versions because of conservatism, or intellectual laziness, and not wanting to change than for any solid reason.<br /><br />All your concerns about HDD swapping for example are wiped out with an eSATA port/adapter card, pretty cheap item, and drives are dirt cheap now. Never mind the plethora of emulation options which also avoid the issue.<br /><br />As for out of the box hardware support, that's a crap criteria. There is more to a distro than which drivers make it to the initrd on the live disk. So what? I've seen live cds find my hardware perfectly, then had to jump through hoops to get the installer to use that same hardware. That's pertinent information to most of us in a review, but something you'll never know to inform us about, because you've mistakenly decided that the live cd is all you, and therefore your readers need to know.<br /><br />Perhaps every distro will end up running smoothly after some fine tuning of the installation target. But that doesn't change the fact that amount of fine tuning needed, and how much fine v. coarse tuning is going to vary from distro to distro. Nor does it change the fact that this is really useful information to get from a reviewer, particularly if that reviewer posts the crib for his Mint XFCE installation for your edification.<br /><br />Running everything in live CD modes doesn't level the playing field either, in fact, it is heavily weighted in favor of any of the recent deluge of useless Ubuntu derivatives. <br /><br />What good is a reviewer who purposefully slants the criteria to favor a limited set of distros? An emulator would be a more level playing field, don't you think? Certainly more useful than your subjective impressions of how well a live CD runs, particularly given how willing you were to ascribe a long boot time to your CD drive...<br /><br />In short your policy is at the least intellectually dishonest, and your reasons are patently rationalizations, not defensible reasons for the choice you've made.<br /><br />Personally, I'll be looking for a PC-BSD review from someone who doesn't judge the book by it's cover.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-8255185142883559742011-05-24T09:49:02.961+01:002011-05-24T09:49:02.961+01:00@Anonymous:
I try to stick to Live version for the...@Anonymous:<br />I try to stick to Live version for the reasons I mentioned several times (for example <a href="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2011/04/linux-minx-xfce-roller-coaster.html?showComment=1304110854593#c7428645215965765984" rel="nofollow">here</a>).<br />I wanted to start with FreeBSD, but since it does not have Live version itself, I brought my attention to its little bro. The bro itself is very interesting from my point of view.<br />I have other BSD-like systems in the list (like PC-BSD mentioned above, but not only it), so stay tuned!DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-57142793972423858932011-05-24T09:45:47.616+01:002011-05-24T09:45:47.616+01:00@Anonymous:
PC-BSD is in the list, let's see h...@Anonymous:<br />PC-BSD is in the list, let's see how well it works with my 4.5 y.o. laptop...DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-83889407932188186122011-05-24T09:45:04.820+01:002011-05-24T09:45:04.820+01:00@Shawn H. Corey:
Thanks for another item in my to-...@Shawn H. Corey:<br />Thanks for another item in my to-do list. I'll have a look, it is very interesting.<br />Not sure though it will support my hardware, especially WiFi card...DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-73787936365097869942011-05-24T08:07:22.751+01:002011-05-24T08:07:22.751+01:00Why would you choose to review a outdated BSD dist...Why would you choose to review a outdated BSD distribution from 2007 that is discontinued ?<br />Only because it has live CD ? <br />None is going to use it today.<br /><br />If you want to make a full review, install a current BSD distro and play with it for a week.<br />Then compare on what is different from the Linux world.<br />(yeah I know that BSD is NOT Linux, but they have many similarities - and they are from a close family).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-14298421125844209662011-05-24T07:02:42.918+01:002011-05-24T07:02:42.918+01:00I tried PC-BSD a while back and was quite impresse...I tried PC-BSD a while back and was quite impressed. I was particularly impressed that it did a great job recognizing the hardware on my system.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-63782105403905479812011-05-24T02:52:12.183+01:002011-05-24T02:52:12.183+01:00@DarkDuck,
If you want geeky, try Minix: http://...@DarkDuck,<br /><br />If you want geeky, try Minix: http://www.minix3.org/<br /><br />You can even read Linus' announcement of Linux on comp.os.minix: https://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.minix/msg/2194d253268b0a1bShawn H Coreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10953345056642320623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-43370780190740073752011-05-23T21:49:08.160+01:002011-05-23T21:49:08.160+01:00Carl,
Have not tried it yet, but now it is in the ...Carl,<br />Have not tried it yet, but now it is in the to-do list. Thanks!<br /><br />PS. My to-do list grows faster than I write reviews. Thanks to my readers!DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-17693998916792649922011-05-23T17:34:15.090+01:002011-05-23T17:34:15.090+01:00Have you tried PC-BSD? It's a more user friend...Have you tried PC-BSD? It's a more user friendly version of BSD and uses a Mac type package styleCarl Draperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09177915812566292083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-63045340391183501652011-05-23T17:17:14.825+01:002011-05-23T17:17:14.825+01:00@speedbuggy:
I think Linux loses its aura of "...@speedbuggy:<br />I think Linux loses its aura of "geeky stuff" while BSD still has this charm on it. FreeSBIE could help to remove this superstition, as more people could touch BSD without need to install it. That's really bad there is no fresh version of FreeSBIE now.DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-9198655287306572602011-05-23T17:13:19.984+01:002011-05-23T17:13:19.984+01:00FreeSBIE was great in the day .. it booted quick o...FreeSBIE was great in the day .. it booted quick on older machines. Wifi was almost impossible back then due to FreeBSD not having the drivers .. wired worked most of the time. XFCE looks lean and light to me .. same as now. When this came out FreeBSD was out performing most distros but other than the novelty I wonder how many ppl other than me actually ran a BSD as their daily driver? Now its mostly mac/debian/7.speedbuggynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-22529272737888343812011-05-23T16:11:01.053+01:002011-05-23T16:11:01.053+01:00@Anonymous:
Consider the year when this system was...@Anonymous:<br />Consider the year when this system was released: 2007! Distrowatch lists this system as "Discontinued" now. 8-(<br />I think that "core" for FreeSBIE is even older.<br />For that age, desktop looks OK.DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-45641229810997146512011-05-23T16:01:15.599+01:002011-05-23T16:01:15.599+01:00That xfce screenshot looks sad. And boring. Thanks...That xfce screenshot looks sad. And boring. Thanks for the review though ;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com