tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post4450445107106216889..comments2024-03-26T17:37:35.499+00:00Comments on Linux notes from DarkDuck: Does Net Mean Inter? Or Not?DarkDuck (m)http://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-61418667882398863812011-05-17T21:28:50.697+01:002011-05-17T21:28:50.697+01:00@Anonimous:
Good point about netinstall. But this ...@Anonimous:<br />Good point about netinstall. But this method is something different from Live run which I used.DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-43515349259824930892011-05-17T19:34:05.695+01:002011-05-17T19:34:05.695+01:00You can also create the net install disk and that ...You can also create the net install disk and that will allow you to install all packages from the repositories including OpenOffice. My understanding is that F15 will use LibreOffice instead. I have F14_PAE and F14_64 installed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-32108652962190335352011-05-17T10:05:04.335+01:002011-05-17T10:05:04.335+01:00@dadreggors:
I am afraid the points you listed are...@dadreggors:<br />I am afraid the points you listed are just a general image which Linux got ~pre-2000. It is so difficult to get rid of this.<br />Unfortunately, some of these points are still valid.<br />Hardware support - vendors still prefer to release drivers for Windows and only after that think about Linux-native drivers. Not talking about closed-source drivers and puristic distros. Luckily, Fedora is not so puristic.<br />Software - choice is big, but not all the Linux programs are as polished as Microsoft ones. It does not stop me, but can stop somebody else.<br />Programmers and hackers - it depends on distro. Some of them are specially made for programmers and hackers and not intended for regular user. Fedora is very good in these terms.DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-14539001899390151242011-05-17T05:51:41.627+01:002011-05-17T05:51:41.627+01:00I do not disagree with the point that there is fin...I do not disagree with the point that there is fine tuning that can be done on an installed system vs a LiveCD. I would make the point though that you can (once in the Desktop) use yum or package manager and install software or fine tune as well. That kind of makes that point less valid.<br /><br />That said, you are correct I was not aware that you "ONLY" review LiveCD distributions. Being new to reading your reviews, I read that as these features are not available in Fedora 14. I probably will not be the last person to read these statements that way either. I just wanted to point out that this is NOT a reflection of the installed product. As a long time user of Linux (pre 2000) and Linux System Admin by trade I here these kinds of comments parroted up as truth all the time. Many users are still scared to try Linux because they "have read" that...<br /><br />1. Hardware support is lacking<br />2. Software is scarce (no office suite?)<br />3. It is for programmers and hackers only<br /><br />I really get tired of correcting/elightening them and many times having to prove it by opening my laptop. This is why when I see an article like this I cringe... not that you are wrong, just that you are not clear that you meant in LiveCD mode not after a full install.dadreggorshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11773304039963225079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-22217634897879239062011-05-16T23:55:29.452+01:002011-05-16T23:55:29.452+01:00@dadreggors:
You're right that Fedora has an o...@dadreggors:<br />You're right that Fedora has an option to install Open Office. But other distros have it already included. It means you do not need to download extra Megabytes to have it on your computer. It can be very useful for SOHO market.<br />If you read few more on this blog, you may notice that I always review Live mode of system. Comparing them in installed version is not always fair, because of amount of fine-tuning I may (or may not) do during the review itself.<br />As for probable DNS issue, Fedora 14 was the only Live CD where I had this issue. Probably it'll be fixed in Fedora 15.<br />As I wrote in my review, I like Fedora, and probably will make a move towards it sooner or later.DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-31470522763913992372011-05-16T23:49:28.993+01:002011-05-16T23:49:28.993+01:00@DarkDuck
Fedora 13 and 14 most certainly do have...@DarkDuck<br /><br />Fedora 13 and 14 most certainly do have office suites. Just use your package manager to install OpenOffice. Larry was correct a LiveCD does not have space to add the 100+ MB OpenOffice suite. You are not limited to OpenOffice either, the yum repos for Fedora 14 lists LibreOffice (the newer OpenOffice fork) and koffice.<br /><br />Had you installed from a DVD and not just run the LiveCD you would have been given the option to install these during install time.<br /><br />Keep in mind a LiveCD is a minimal preview meant more to test hardware compatibility and see the environment run than to be a full everyday Desktop. Use the right tool for the job and you will get better results. <br /><br />If you do not want to install it on your laptop/Desktop then use VirtualBox, KVM, Xen, or VMWare and create a virtual machine to test on.<br /><br />As to the network issues that sounds like a DNS issue that also had more to do with the LiveCD than Fedora 14 as a whole.dadreggorshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11773304039963225079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-85831822554426607332011-05-16T23:03:25.477+01:002011-05-16T23:03:25.477+01:00@Anonymous:
probably because I don't need this...@Anonymous:<br />probably because I don't need this and I don't use it.DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-28059229157383204932011-05-16T23:02:56.844+01:002011-05-16T23:02:56.844+01:00@Larry Cafiero:
You're almost right. I used Li...@Larry Cafiero:<br />You're almost right. I used Live CD. But I did not install it. Only used Live mode.<br />I am waiting for Fedora 15 too. Will certainly review it. And, if I am more happy with it than with my current system(s), probably switch to Fedora instead of Ubuntu 11.04. But that's just an idea for now.DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-88713442057393480922011-05-16T17:17:48.318+01:002011-05-16T17:17:48.318+01:00You didn't notice an elephant - Virtualization...You didn't notice an elephant - VirtualizationAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-87973799631056508152011-05-16T16:54:33.066+01:002011-05-16T16:54:33.066+01:00"Burn it to a CD" implies that you insta..."Burn it to a CD" implies that you installed from the Live CD, which would explain why you didn't get Office software. Such is life when you only have 700MB to deal with, and while other distros may swing this, Fedora doesn't. Installing from a DVD, if that's possible, is the workaround.<br /><br />I've used Fedora 14 almost exclusively since its release, and I'm ready for Fedora 15.Larry Cafierohttp://larrythefreesoftwareguy.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com