tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post3808333838056266613..comments2024-03-18T10:43:28.122+00:00Comments on Linux notes from DarkDuck: Linux Mint 13 MATE: The Different TwinDarkDuck (m)http://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-53157395202527945962014-04-15T22:23:27.518+01:002014-04-15T22:23:27.518+01:00Thanks for your comment Chris. I am now a Mint use...Thanks for your comment Chris. I am now a Mint user myself (along with Mageia and Debian). Although, MATE is still not my choice.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-49177119061180947902014-04-15T22:14:03.367+01:002014-04-15T22:14:03.367+01:00Well guys, I'm reading reviews and comments he...Well guys, I'm reading reviews and comments here...To tell you honestly, I'm getting tired listening the same all over again: this is not right that is not right.Well sit down, join the Mint community and CONTRIBUTE with code to fix it. DO NOT forget you get all that FOR FREE!!! Please give some credit to the developers and donate. These guys completely transformed the muck Ubuntu became and GAVE IT TO US FOR FREE.<br />I entered the Linux world with Slackware back in 2000 and i've been reading reviews and comments ever since. I switched entirely to Linux mint from Mint 9 and it's by far the best distro regardsless - for developing or general use. Ofcourse I respect anyone's preference. And Dark Duck, the mint menu is well better choice than Unity dash or whatever M.Shuttle calls it. Ubuntu, RedHat and Google forgot their roots in the OpenSource and started acting a bit like a famous company from Redmont telling us what we like(or not). <br />And since you been in IT all you life, you should not have any problem with this(part of your review)"The default windows decoration theme in Linux Mint 13 Maya MATE is quite confusing: the window header has exactly the same colour as the menu bar. If you want to click the title to maximize/minimize or drag the window, you can easily click the wrong area."<br />Keep up the good work and show gratitude to OSS developers, they do that mostly in their own time and we owe them respect.<br />Cheers from Eire<br />Chris Cooperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04360417612494224967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-91979098215315818922013-03-06T09:14:39.763+00:002013-03-06T09:14:39.763+00:00Hello Lucas,
You're right, I used Unetbootin t...Hello Lucas,<br />You're right, I used Unetbootin to create Live USB to boot the operating system in Live mode. Even though you can configure Unetbootin'ed image to have persistence, it is still not the option for normal running of the Operating System. It's only the "live preview".<br />If you have a spare HDD, then download your ISO, then either burn it to DVD or create a Live USB. Once booted from that DVD/USB, run the installation.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-63808936770360051342013-03-06T08:17:32.372+00:002013-03-06T08:17:32.372+00:00Dark Duck,
Thanks so much for this wonderful post...Dark Duck,<br /><br />Thanks so much for this wonderful post. I have a couple of questions:<br /><br />It seems that you used Unetbooting to create a sort of LIVE USB, similar to a live dvd or cd...is that correct?<br /><br />I have a brand new hard drive...never been used, and would like to dedicate it only for use with Mint MATE. How should I install MATE on to this hdd...or should I even do that? Is using a live USB a better option for system stability and functionality?<br /><br />I truly won't use this hdd for anything but MATE, because my other hard drive already has Windows on it ready to go in case the learning curve for MATE is quite long.<br /><br />So what would be the best way to install MATE considering this?<br /><br />Thanks for your time and thanks in advance for your help.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05322319343454293631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-62141574170194352682012-11-28T04:00:03.061+00:002012-11-28T04:00:03.061+00:00I want to apologize if my comments were harsher th...I want to apologize if my comments were harsher than I intended. It was not my intention to underrate your review. What I was just trying to highlight (badly) was the difficulty of testing something as complex as an OS with the limited resources (both in hardware and time) of one individual. My suggestions were just that, suggestions which of course you can dismiss, since you are the guy who does the work and gives us the results for free.<br />PS: It just occurred to me that actually we didn't even experienced the same OS, because several months had passed when I installed it, and many updates were available in the repositories. Besides, I enabled the repository for the Mint 14 backports. That means, for instance, that the version of MATE I am running is 1.4, instead of 1.2.vavivihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07736558268746135789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-30117264567511175462012-11-27T09:31:39.930+00:002012-11-27T09:31:39.930+00:00Thanks for your comments.
I am happy that your ins...Thanks for your comments.<br />I am happy that your installation of Mint works fine for you, and you are a happy user.<br />However, this is my blog and I have a full right to use the methods I like, to write what I feel and so on. You're free to open your own blog, or write you guest post on this one. I am always open to guest posting.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-43455284949680521692012-11-27T00:36:37.169+00:002012-11-27T00:36:37.169+00:00Just a few comments. Since Mint is not a distribut...Just a few comments. Since Mint is not a distribution primarily intended to be run from a Live CD/USB stick, it may be a good idea to test it in a virtual machine instead. I just installed Linux Mint 13 Mate Edition and had no problems with Remmina (I installed it from Synaptic, not Software Manager). I can also access the drives in a Windows machine with Caja without any problem (I don't use Gigolo). About Mint Menu, I'm not enthusiastic about it either, but I cannot consider its inclusion a serious issue, since (as Jerry pointed out) you can replace it with something more to your liking in about 30 seconds.<br />I think it all comes down to this: unless you do a very thorough review your opinion about a distro is going to be strongly influenced by your particular setup and personal taste. As for me, so far I love Mint.vavivihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07736558268746135789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-50670758365998117282012-11-09T16:41:39.831+00:002012-11-09T16:41:39.831+00:00the shortcut for restarting desktop environment is...the shortcut for restarting desktop environment is Ctrl+Alt+BackspaceSreekanth Boddireddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16464761240076391822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-10400090929085763862012-10-27T20:55:43.603+01:002012-10-27T20:55:43.603+01:00Nope. Wikipedia says: Cinnamon is a fork of GNOME ...Nope. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinnamon_(user_interface)" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia</a> says: <i>Cinnamon is a fork of GNOME Shell, initially developed by (and for) Linux Mint.</i>DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-32125616361106610172012-10-27T18:07:41.926+01:002012-10-27T18:07:41.926+01:00You made the same mistake at cinnamon's postYou made the same mistake at cinnamon's postBacanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07259569728304301942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-24996832818643007852012-10-18T02:31:46.442+01:002012-10-18T02:31:46.442+01:00Consider, however, the fact that MATE and Cinnamon...Consider, however, the fact that MATE and Cinnamon are very, very new on the scene, whilst XFCE, LXDE and KDE are all very mature. It is very normal that there be some oddities and rough edges. Polish comes later. :-)<br /><br />Compared to Gnome3, MATE kicks butt IMO. Yes, there are rough edges, but Gnome3 was kicking my battery life pretty hard...Kelos Hightowerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00295419796987556927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-91431087269847607932012-09-05T09:31:11.999+01:002012-09-05T09:31:11.999+01:00There are other DEs which give you launchers: XFCE...There are other DEs which give you launchers: XFCE, LXDE, KDE. ;) They are better polished than MATE / Cinnamon.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-76908798844656582492012-09-05T07:34:33.677+01:002012-09-05T07:34:33.677+01:00Personally, I don't much care if menus are big...Personally, I don't much care if menus are big because for applications I use every day I start them with launchers on the taskbar. One click, done. So if I use the menu it'll be for something I expect to do a bit of prospecting for, and I don't mind if it takes up some screen real estate.<br />For me the key feature I get back with Cinnamon or Mate is precisely those launchers, which the Gnome Shell doesn't want me to have.Purple library guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01930984683714519212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-43258624150873972922012-08-24T11:15:46.518+01:002012-08-24T11:15:46.518+01:00The best OS is the one that suits your needs and w...The best OS is the one that suits your needs and where you feel comfortable. If you feel comfortable in Mint, that's your choice, that's your right.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-18755910116618195462012-08-24T11:05:28.066+01:002012-08-24T11:05:28.066+01:00I am using both Linux Mint MATE and Cinnamon on di...I am using both Linux Mint MATE and Cinnamon on different systems, and like the distros very much. Surely Cinnamon is unstable at times, but both distros are also well built. In contrast to other replies here, I do like the mint menus and don't feel they are disorganized. For me the ultimate test to know if linux mint is suited for general use is to install it at my parent's computer... They really had a hard time understanding Microsoft Windows, and when the computer had been seriously infected, I decided to change to linuxMint. Knowing that hell would break loose with zillions of questions within a week, I still went along and installed it. You know what? No questions at all!!! They actually found the desktop to be very intuitive and found their way through the system without any problem. So my conclusion is that LinuxMint and linux in general has grown up very much indeed. Sure there are still some nagging issues, but looking at the big picture those are rather small details. So my compliments to LinuxMint & the linux community!!!!Terry Tzintzoglouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01037669616924959014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-87897903837583978122012-08-22T19:46:47.883+01:002012-08-22T19:46:47.883+01:00Very good idea Jerry. Furthermore a person could e...Very good idea Jerry. Furthermore a person could even install a dock like AWN, or Cairo Dock. That's what I always did when using Gnome 2. Eddiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08943912552676296880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-19877912270061649692012-08-22T18:00:06.137+01:002012-08-22T18:00:06.137+01:00I have used mate and change the menu to he classic...I have used mate and change the menu to he classic style while it is not gnome 2 its close. I used the panel properties and removed the mint menu in favor of the classic oneJerrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-78933965145236731442012-08-21T21:41:11.711+01:002012-08-21T21:41:11.711+01:00Thanks for staying in touch!Thanks for staying in touch!DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-6384521115753580982012-08-21T21:40:31.023+01:002012-08-21T21:40:31.023+01:00Thanks for the correction. I edited that paragraph...Thanks for the correction. I edited that paragraph a little bit.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-43776584104130717782012-08-21T20:03:10.435+01:002012-08-21T20:03:10.435+01:00"This is a distribution with a MATE desktop e..."This is a distribution with a MATE desktop environment, which is actually the Mint team's fork of GNOME2."<br /><br />MATE does not come from the Mint team. The lead developer is an Arch user.<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MATE_(desktop_environment)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-37913931238879393472012-08-21T19:45:10.895+01:002012-08-21T19:45:10.895+01:00I pretty much had the same experience with Mate as...I pretty much had the same experience with Mate as I did with Cinnamon. Mate did perform somewhat better for me, but I also have never like the MintMenu. I suppose if a person really wanted to use LinuxMint Mate they could replace the menu system with something a little less disorganized and a lot more simple. Something like GloMenu may work well. Anyway I did install this distro on a test partition and everything I tried did work. I have a feeling that their next releases may be better than these releases, even tho these aren't bad. I still think there may be some compatibility problems between the Mate system and some Gnome libraries, but I can't say for sure. Time will tell. Again another good review. Eddiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08943912552676296880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-68389997379467935722012-08-21T09:33:50.141+01:002012-08-21T09:33:50.141+01:00Thank for a tip, Barnaby!Thank for a tip, Barnaby!DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.com