tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post3009016129286342353..comments2024-03-26T17:37:35.499+00:00Comments on Linux notes from DarkDuck: Low-spec computer: Alt Linux vs Windows 7 UltimateDarkDuck (m)http://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-89914737033019934082017-11-06T04:58:39.856+00:002017-11-06T04:58:39.856+00:00Keep in mind that as Alt Linux now uses Red Hats S...Keep in mind that as Alt Linux now uses Red Hats Systemd malware this is just another Windows clones for all intents as the Systemd replicates the Miscroft proprietary<br />abstraction layers and proprietary file system philosophy.SS NNNNNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08737576153878936813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-80854882970505773752011-11-10T14:31:45.379+00:002011-11-10T14:31:45.379+00:00One thing I really don't like about Windows 7 ...One thing I really don't like about Windows 7 is that you need to adjust a lot of things if you have a low spec computer. In that case, I find Linux better.<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.manchester-it.net/computer-support/computer-support-whalley-t.asp" rel="nofollow">Whalley range computer repair</a>Janice Clementshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17386498119103476633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-16670899942128584772011-05-01T23:09:25.608+01:002011-05-01T23:09:25.608+01:00@David:
Thanks, funny comparison.@David:<br />Thanks, funny comparison.DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-82804931115432793552011-05-01T13:20:08.623+01:002011-05-01T13:20:08.623+01:00here's a good cmparsion http://coolometer.org/...here's a good cmparsion http://coolometer.org/windows-vs-linuxDavidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06597872500358964793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-86834913500272490622011-04-13T14:46:16.605+01:002011-04-13T14:46:16.605+01:00oh, it is too much english slang:)
indeed, Window...oh, it is too much english slang:)<br /><br />indeed, Windows 7 may be installed less than 1,1Ghz (i experiment 800 Mhz), but installation time increases in direct ratio lowering of rate; at the same time RAM less 512 MB - error (i mean system RAM, not video RAM) for Win7, for Alt Linux 5 installation it is possible.<br />I not say games, photoshop, video or 3D rendering about, but I mean play of music, films, Internet with modern distro on low-spec comp, and it work... almost acceptably;). <br />(at the same time WinXP and 512 RAM preferable tnan Win7, as Alt 4.1 and 512 RAM preferable tnan Alt Linux 5).<br />A have computer Pentium II about 550Mhz, but I am afraid to begin installation, life too short:)))Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-36556521446490677082011-04-05T15:24:18.110+01:002011-04-05T15:24:18.110+01:00Hey, thanks for the review, I just bumped into thi...Hey, thanks for the review, I just bumped into this as I was googling for some low-spec linux distros. There is something that confuses me, though, and I'm not exactly a newbie, been messing with the ins and outs of computers for more than a decade now: are you saying that you can actually install Windows 7 on a Celeron 1,1Ghz machine with only 512 RAM? Because I've got a little laptop somewhere around the house quite similar to that (but only 256 RAM...) and I know I've used Lubuntu, Arch+LXDE on it and some other light distros, and I honestly think those specs are a little too low. For Win XP, sure, but if ever you wanna play any game that is more demanding than Tetris :D you kinda need more RAM, even on XP. So are you talking about video RAM or system RAM? Because I may be wrong, but - 512 MB RAM to install and actually run Win7? Or anything with KDE, for that matter, as both KDE and Gnome are pretty resource-hungry compared to LXDE, Openbox, Enlightenment even? I know Vista needed at least 2 gigs of RAM to even get going - and like 2GHz CPU, and Win7 can't be THAT much better optimized... Sorry if I missed something here, but I'm just curious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-84264382911261116112011-03-24T23:04:57.874+00:002011-03-24T23:04:57.874+00:00@Firewall Implementation
That's your choice. E...@Firewall Implementation<br />That's your choice. Everyone is free to use tools which he prefers.DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-30832491242483672572011-03-24T08:42:20.180+00:002011-03-24T08:42:20.180+00:00Still With Windows!Still With Windows!Firewall Implementationhttp://www.openzki.com/firewallnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-80315050777762135912011-02-17T14:38:31.569+00:002011-02-17T14:38:31.569+00:00Thanks DarkDuck. I agree that Sergey's analysi...Thanks DarkDuck. I agree that Sergey's analysis was correct, in comparing the two OS's side-by-side and out-of-the-box. <br /><br />I'll try to throw together an article for you on how to build and deploy openXUXE. It's a great way to get all the tools and power of openSUSE in a lightweight, nimble form.Andy Proughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14251534049104528928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-85205136479535074742011-02-16T23:23:51.440+00:002011-02-16T23:23:51.440+00:00Andy,
KDE is default DE for Alt Linux. As Sergey w...Andy,<br />KDE is default DE for Alt Linux. As Sergey wrote, he tried "out of the box" features. Sure enough, replacing KDE with XFCE should lower the resource requirements.<br /><br />"Our Russia: Eggs of Fate" is Russian movie, probably not released outside of CIS. Here is trailer http://www.youtube.com/v/UHjE8lysKFI <br /><br />If you want to share your experience with OpenXuXe, you're more than welcome to make guest posting on my blog.DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-70507160893378970212011-02-16T19:18:37.508+00:002011-02-16T19:18:37.508+00:00Hi Trenin,
Great work! We need a lot of different...Hi Trenin,<br /><br />Great work! We need a lot of different comparisons to find out how best to fill all the user's needs -- and schools definitely have lots of low-spec computers that need to be revived.<br /><br />I've built a minimal version of openSUSE with the XFCE desktop using instructions on the openSUSE Studio website (I call it openXUXE), and I normally run it on old systems with 512 meg of RAM. However, to compare to your experience with ALT Linux today, I ramped it down to 256 meg of RAM. <br /><br />I was able to run a variety of videos over the network without a problem at 256 mg, although I could not find the two you referenced. I found part of a movie called "The Mating Habits of the Earthbound Human" on Youtube, and that ran fine. <br /><br />Shutdown took 18 seconds, boot took 42 seconds. I've got LibreOffice 3.3 installed, and it opened into a blank word processing document in 13 seconds.<br /><br />My installation takes 4.7 GB of space, and my swap file is only 128 mg. <br /><br />I think the big differences between my system and yours is you were probably running an older processor, and you are loading KDE, whereas XFCE is much lighter on resources. I think if you tried again using a minimal XFCE distribution like this openXUXE or Xubuntu, you might have better luck with the video.<br /><br />Keep up the good work!<br />Andy Prough<br />Kyle, TXAndy Proughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14251534049104528928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-26288570275023882122011-02-16T06:39:05.997+00:002011-02-16T06:39:05.997+00:00all - thank you for interest and reviews
best reg...all - thank you for interest and reviews<br /><br />best regards, greyzyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-5686527370198496962011-02-16T06:35:06.187+00:002011-02-16T06:35:06.187+00:00to twitter
oh! of course, I could learn all forma...to twitter<br />oh! of course, I could learn all formats and many recorders, and FTP, HTTP, but its not monograph :) May be it is will made by you or I late ;)<br /><br />greyzyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-65120564282243997202011-02-16T06:26:52.293+00:002011-02-16T06:26:52.293+00:00>Maybe it would have been better to play the vi...>Maybe it would have been better to play the video files using the same software on both systems (VLC pops into mind)...<br /><br />idea message to learn possibility with "default" soft, whenever possible<br /><br />greyzyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-90164138616227250772011-02-16T06:07:41.485+00:002011-02-16T06:07:41.485+00:00>You may wonder what kind of computers you can ...>You may wonder what kind of computers you can >still find remote areas of Russia...<br />hey! we have both new and old... for experiments ;)<br /><br />greyzyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-2791197091596887012011-02-16T06:02:34.704+00:002011-02-16T06:02:34.704+00:00idea message to learn possibility modern OS's ...idea message to learn possibility modern OS's on old computers. At the very least it run :)<br /><br />greyzyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-2430531042167045152011-02-15T22:14:56.841+00:002011-02-15T22:14:56.841+00:00> I say the whole comparison is silly for the g...> I say the whole comparison is silly for the general computer users. No one uses such hardware to run a modern OS any more.<br /><br />You may wonder what kind of computers you can still find remote areas of Russia...DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-43720179450918941992011-02-15T22:12:47.839+00:002011-02-15T22:12:47.839+00:00> Seems to me that the author chose a Linux dis...> Seems to me that the author chose a Linux distribution that would match the outcome he wanted for this article. Bloody Alt Linux indeed - why didn't you use Ubuntu?<br /><br />Alt Linux is very popular in Russia... Like Ubuntu worldwide.DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-35873219705126771532011-02-15T22:11:02.171+00:002011-02-15T22:11:02.171+00:00>Also 128 meg limit I guess that was without sw...>Also 128 meg limit I guess that was without swap space. I have run Linux systems under 128 but swap space is critical.<br /><br />There WAS swap. Please see section at the top where disk split is described.DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-58073947756252521982011-02-15T17:19:36.223+00:002011-02-15T17:19:36.223+00:00Thank you for testing this system. I have several...Thank you for testing this system. I have several machines of similar vintage and keep them running rather than replacing them. I'm not familiar with Alt Linux, so this was interesting to read. I would ordinarily have used Mepis or DSL for this kind of computer for other people. If it were mine, I'd have installed Debian. <br /><br />Why use Samba and AVI for media testing? Is it the only thing you can find in common with Windows? GNU/Linux distributions like Ubuntu package MythTV, which is superior for media streaming but might take more time. FTP, SFTP, HTTP and other easy to run servers would also provide better performance than SMB. For media, you might have installed DeCSS and compared DVD payback, mpeg4 playback and other common formats. AVI is a container format that can be filled with just about anything, so testing that does not tell us much. WMV is an uncommon abomination that should not be considered by anyone.twitterhttp://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/217907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-8434685357558265492011-02-15T14:11:32.211+00:002011-02-15T14:11:32.211+00:00I say the whole comparison is silly for the genera...I say the whole comparison is silly for the general computer users. No one uses such hardware to run a modern OS any more.<br /><br />One thing could be meaningful to do and test for is to tailor Linux for the hardware you have, which is something any one with good knowledge about Linux can do but no one can do for Win 7 but MS. A major difference I would say.Abenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-74866877318887618982011-02-15T10:43:49.265+00:002011-02-15T10:43:49.265+00:00For me, WU7's requirement of 512MB RAM is the ...For me, WU7's requirement of 512MB RAM is the biggest negative.<br /><br />What if I don't have more than 256MB RAM? Also, if y machine is old enough, I may not be able to procure more RAM for it. Result: I have no choice but to install Alt linux then!<br /><br />To me, the comparison is meaningless beyond this point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-21672612965853232152011-02-15T09:27:25.506+00:002011-02-15T09:27:25.506+00:00Seems to me that the author chose a Linux distribu...Seems to me that the author chose a Linux distribution that would match the outcome he wanted for this article. Bloody Alt Linux indeed - why didn't you use Ubuntu?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-63546602175088124942011-02-15T08:13:34.561+00:002011-02-15T08:13:34.561+00:00This is a complete bs article. Why not use a mains...This is a complete bs article. Why not use a mainstream Linux distro? And KDE? Seriously? <br /><br />I run Ubuntu 10.04LTS and it runs rings around Win7 at every turn.<br /><br />Oh, and place a load on Win7 and compare it to Linux. No comparison.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05332617601610395974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-78159612972340579142011-02-15T07:15:03.152+00:002011-02-15T07:15:03.152+00:00Your swap is over 2-4x too big. Your home director...Your swap is over 2-4x too big. Your home directory doesn't count and you don't tell how big / needs to be. My guess is that all in all 3-4gb is enough. Windos on the other handneeds at least 10gb.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com