tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post216563431475362762..comments2024-03-18T10:43:28.122+00:00Comments on Linux notes from DarkDuck: Solus OS: Debian on steroidsDarkDuck (m)http://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-61811680086220658752013-12-28T09:01:19.872+00:002013-12-28T09:01:19.872+00:00Hi, Solus OS is discontinued, sorry. I don't t...Hi, Solus OS is discontinued, sorry. I don't think you can install it on top of Ubuntu.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-3064082489714320342013-12-26T23:30:33.072+00:002013-12-26T23:30:33.072+00:00Can Solus desktop be installed in ubuntu 12.04 as ...Can Solus desktop be installed in ubuntu 12.04 as an option at login? I went to the download web page and their are many files I am not sure which are meeded I don't want to replace my ubuntucmcanultyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01202996249639370061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-79798325147167377642013-05-05T22:08:14.118+01:002013-05-05T22:08:14.118+01:00Thanks for your comments, Stephen!
I hope you wil...Thanks for your comments, Stephen!<br /><br />I hope you will stay with SolusOS for long time and will enjoy it even more!DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-58069533739969394112013-05-04T23:54:19.325+01:002013-05-04T23:54:19.325+01:00Re. the "planet": When I saw it I immedi...Re. the "planet": When I saw it I immediately assumed it was supposed to be the sun in blue light complete with solar flares, which would fit with a name like Solus. I did download what I presume was the latest version though so it might have been a completely different image :-) <br />Very pleased with it so far though there are intermittent problems with sound which I haven't fixed yet - I suspect Flash as they don't happen with sound files on the hard drive. One small problem in an excellent OS. Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03277334015453515856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-38255042417652629872013-04-18T22:50:40.930+01:002013-04-18T22:50:40.930+01:00Thanks for sharing the news, Matthias!Thanks for sharing the news, Matthias!DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-24891475605360884562013-04-18T14:28:11.467+01:002013-04-18T14:28:11.467+01:00Funny to read this after a half Year ;) http://www...Funny to read this after a half Year ;) http://www.solusos.com/blog/thu-03142013-2024/standing-solusos-two-legsAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08650484321979763522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-89547186912510234522012-10-17T16:43:45.745+01:002012-10-17T16:43:45.745+01:00Solus OS is based on Debian. Why should it use GRU...Solus OS is based on Debian. Why should it use GRUB? Of course, GRUB2!DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-53079434714168515222012-10-17T16:33:29.572+01:002012-10-17T16:33:29.572+01:00Does SolusOS use grub2?Does SolusOS use grub2?Sr. Dorothy, OSBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16816219240650355377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-34424975995162733482012-10-16T21:29:03.174+01:002012-10-16T21:29:03.174+01:00I never said I forked GNOME 3 :) I said my desktop...I never said I forked GNOME 3 :) I said my desktop is based on it. i.e. it uses certain elements of GNOME 3. The only thing that is actually forked is the file manager (Athena)<br />Everything else is new apps, i.e the panel, or patched to fit in better. <br />And regarding forks, well, maybe someone should do it right for once. Ikey Dohertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00781236801095805050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-12573536014280915412012-10-16T21:22:31.293+01:002012-10-16T21:22:31.293+01:00Can you give us a link to this RedOS? I could not ...Can you give us a link to this RedOS? I could not find it!DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-8488000948933603202012-10-16T21:21:58.146+01:002012-10-16T21:21:58.146+01:00Ikey, once again for the big answer. I bet it'...Ikey, once again for the big answer. I bet it's longer than my article itself! ;)<br /><br />As a question, why have you decided to fork GNOME3, if GNOME2 is still supported until 2020, as per post above?DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-68317190622480424032012-10-16T21:20:47.455+01:002012-10-16T21:20:47.455+01:00It is actually bad and good. First, GNOME 3 still ...It is actually bad and good. First, GNOME 3 still proves its usability, though without Shell for yet one more time. Second, the number of forks becomes too high, IMHO. Zorin, Cinnamon, Solus, who's next?DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-78515808539635389152012-10-16T21:19:00.643+01:002012-10-16T21:19:00.643+01:00PV, I know distributions which exist as "one-...PV, I know distributions which exist as "one-man-band" for long time, and I know distributions which fall over even with bigger teams.<br />So, the number of developers is not the decisive factor. Though, low number increases the risk.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-20357325626661830242012-10-16T18:05:16.266+01:002012-10-16T18:05:16.266+01:00" The future
Unfortunately, the future is not..." The future<br />Unfortunately, the future is not that clear for Solus OS."<br /><br />Given that you linked to a post in which I clarified every point, the future of SolusOS is crystal clear."<br /><br />"The concern which I'd like to express here is the future of GNOME 2. Solus OS uses it, but for how long will it be supported? And what will happen when support ceases? I doubt that the team under the Solus OS brand will be able to support this monster by themselves."<br />SolusOS 2 is going to feature its own desktop environment based on a modified Gnome Classic (3.4) codebase. The work for this is already complete.<br /><br /><br />"The second issue is that, although there are several developers listed on the official web site, Solus OS is more or less an "one-man-band". And this man, Ikey, has some bills to pay, has some personal life and so on. It means that the development of the project is under big question. "<br />Again, I see no reason why people need to use my personal life against me. Doesn't everyone have to pay bills?<br />There is no question whatsoever about the development of SolusOS these are points you have possibly misunderstood<br /><br />If you have questions regarding SolusOS future, I'm more than happy to address them on Google+, as I do quite frequently.<br /><br />Please do not interpret this as some form of attack. It is far from that. Just doing some ritual clarification :)<br /><br />Regarding the migration to PiSi, again, there is no way in the world we will have packages missing. Here's some statistics:<br />30K Debian Packages are built from around 6K source packages. This means a lot less actual packaging involved.<br />Out of those generated 30K packages, less than 400 are actually Debian specific, i.e. rely on dkms, libapt-pkg, dpkg, etc. These would be items like Synaptic, apt-get,<br />and all dkms reliant packages.<br />This still leaves SolusOS 2 with 30K packages to *start*<br />with. Me and a few of the guys will make our changes, and will be using stripped down versions of what Wheezy uses.<br />This means multiarch and binary compatibility with Wheezy.<br />That said all Debian/@Canonical patches are going to be immediately blacklisted if it appears they are to enhance the experience in a Debian or Canonical way.<br />This means less overhead and useless cruft.<br />With the missing packages, you're basically just talking things like binary drivers, which I will repackage myself,<br />and virtualbox, which I'm also happy to repackage.<br />Consider the existing workload. SolusOS Eveline has a 15GB package repository containing around 8K debain packages.<br />Now think of the size of the Squeeze repo, around 30K packages. It only has 12K more as it stands. So, with SolusOS 2 I autobuild (through some epic scripting and hackery) all 30K PiSI packages, to which I make our changes, and continue to improve the repo + stability,<br />as well as automate the testing process for backports and security updates through a testing buildfarm.<br />A far more elegant solution, we ensure stability from a variety of sources.<br />Given that we haven't the worry of politics within the project, we do not need to blacklist certain packages<br />from the repository. I'm quite convinced that SolusOS 2 will actually feature a larger repository than even that of Debian by the time we hit RC stage.<br /><br />This isn't done on some passing whim. Debian currently are the upstream source of SolusOS 1. This removes a large amount of control from me as to how the system should operate. Also the users are affected by upstream<br />issues and instabilities. Many a time nvidia + libreoffice, for example, have been killed by a combination of Debian updates, and in the libreoffice case, backports.<br /><br />So as to the stability notion, the move to a self-controlling distribution, i.e. independent, is actually required to keep high standards within the project.Ikey Dohertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00781236801095805050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-86708973984579364212012-10-16T15:29:39.867+01:002012-10-16T15:29:39.867+01:00I've been using RedOS Sibux from Siberia but w...I've been using RedOS Sibux from Siberia but would love to try this now. Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-14518054513042727102012-10-16T13:33:13.282+01:002012-10-16T13:33:13.282+01:00I believe Ikey is working on something that will b...I believe Ikey is working on something that will be his own desktop, maybe like Zorin has it's own desktop. <br /><br /> SolusOS 2 Planning<br /><br /> Just so everyone is aware work has already begun on SolusOS2.<br /><br /> We will be using our own version of the fallback mode of Gnome 3. This "desktop environment" needs a name.<br /> Our Gnome 3 will be identical in every sense to the Gnome 2 you are using now. It will still use gnome panel,<br /> metacity and nautilus.<br /><br />http://main.solusos.com/showthread.php?855-SolusOS-2-Planning<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-48109833232558304352012-10-16T12:53:30.103+01:002012-10-16T12:53:30.103+01:00Thanks for an update with some good news!Thanks for an update with some good news!DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-28343232547301314502012-10-16T12:04:28.588+01:002012-10-16T12:04:28.588+01:00"The concern which I'd like to express he..."The concern which I'd like to express here is the future of GNOME 2. Solus OS uses it, but for how long will it be supported?"<br />Until Red Hat 6.x is supported (2020). So, for a long-long time.Ráksihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16677785972155462644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-89165842926512238702012-10-16T10:55:44.824+01:002012-10-16T10:55:44.824+01:00I took the torrent file here. It worked for me.I took the torrent file <a href="http://linuxtracker.org/index.php?page=torrent-details&id=896c3f69c6e28547619db895aa2b1ce78cb8fbed" rel="nofollow">here</a>. It worked for me.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-2322332694655531602012-10-16T00:46:24.221+01:002012-10-16T00:46:24.221+01:00@DarkDuck: This is a pretty good, interesting, and...@DarkDuck: This is a pretty good, interesting, and comprehensive review. I'd like to touch on a few of the points you raised regarding the future of SolusOS. SolusOS 2, which should have a beta release out soon and a final release around the same time as that of Debian 7 "Wheezy", will use a heavily-modified GNOME 3 environment which should behave exactly as GNOME 2 does currently in SolusOS. This means there will be no "Shell" nonsense; the panel, menu, desktop customization, and Compiz will all work as they do now. I also raised the issue of this being a one-man show with Mr. Doherty, but he has assured me and others that although he is the lead developer, the other developers do contribute to a significant portion of the project as well, so it is not a one-man show despite appearances otherwise.<br />--<br />a Linux Mint user since 2009 May 1PVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03204919785416600206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-20803982052373534782012-10-16T00:42:16.879+01:002012-10-16T00:42:16.879+01:00Hi. Where did you get your .torrent file for this?...Hi. Where did you get your .torrent file for this? Linux Tracker is saying it can't find the file.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com