tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post1785570529495994193..comments2024-03-26T17:37:35.499+00:00Comments on Linux notes from DarkDuck: KDE or GNOME?DarkDuck (m)http://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-32196737389048443732012-11-12T09:39:17.384+00:002012-11-12T09:39:17.384+00:00Mridul, thanks for so long and details response to...Mridul, thanks for so long and details response to this fairly old post. Do you want to write a short article for the blog "what I like in KDE"?<br /><br />As for *buntu, I think they are moving from dome desktop to corporate desktop market clearly.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-17006674228544529152012-11-12T04:25:50.843+00:002012-11-12T04:25:50.843+00:00I tried Ubuntu, Fedora 17, Mint with the following...I tried Ubuntu, Fedora 17, Mint with the following DEs => Gnome 2.x, Gnome Shell, Unity, MATE, Cinnamon, XFCE, LMDE, LXDE on my personal computers which are Dell Inspiron (QuadCore + 6GB RAM), HP SlimLine desktop (Core 2 Duo with 4 GB RAM) & a old Compaq Presario (Dual Core + 1 GB RAM)<br /><br />And I am hogging on to (or maybe still deciding) between KDE 4.x and MATE. Rest all is a NO NO!<br /><br />The best thing I like about KDE, is that, its basi desktop effects requires no compiz configuration, all themes & such require installation of no separate tools, and no matter what distro you choose, the same themes, icons, whatever are 100% compatible! <br /><br />As for the applications, I've never had a problem, especially that I had to disable "Desktop Effects" on my old laptop<br /><br />Even my office laptop, Lenovo T420 comes with RHEL Workstation, where I got Gnome 2.x + KDE 4.x gives no trouble<br /><br />From distro to distro, between various versions of Gnome 2.x, Gnome 3.x, Gnome Shell & Unity .. there is rarely a common thing w.r.t customization of the interface. However, if you go for KDE, it's a standard across all. It's like, again as I said, no matter what distro you choose, you got the same steps, config files, themes etc to set it up as you like it and no separate tools required & no special googling required as well!<br /><br />If a regular user had to spend (or rather waste) time on the internet just trying to find out how to enable/disable/change this n that on a regular home desktop/laptop, what's the use of such a DE in the first place? <br /><br />I'm not a regular user, a Linux SME, actually. However, even I would not like to waste so much time on just trying to find out how to customize my damn desktop by spending hours on google! <br /><br />KDE is something that I'd like to stick to, cause spending 15 mins of common-sense helps me customize anything & everything I want. I'd rather spend my other time in some productive work rather than to find how to customize my interface. And a regular user, let's say someone in my family, who are not tech geeks, would do their other work, which is again, not searching for technical solutions how to make their desktop work! If they have to, what the hell did those organizations do creating the distribution in the first place?<br /><br />*buntu started off with the Human thing, however that got lost in the translation and I see them becoming MS or Apple for that matter. What a huge shame for so called OpenSource foundation and ethics. Yes, linux offers you choice and you can choose and change whatever whenever you like, but if you are targetting a large market of desktop users, then build something that doesn't so much tweaking & googling! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16708851996253835003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-51780672969172142312012-04-27T09:28:59.290+01:002012-04-27T09:28:59.290+01:00They are just different.They are just <a href="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/04/unity-gnome3-windows-8-and-jumping-rats.html" rel="nofollow">different</a>.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-12442762875547672572012-04-26T13:32:06.043+01:002012-04-26T13:32:06.043+01:00Gnome and Unity both are crazy now.Gnome and Unity both are crazy now.c0nnect3dhttp://www.c0nnect3d.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-34592245812178026752011-08-01T22:06:57.902+01:002011-08-01T22:06:57.902+01:00@Anonymous:
Agree, that's a funny thing in GNO...@Anonymous:<br />Agree, that's a funny thing in GNOME 3. I had to query Google about it when I tried <a href="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2011/05/fedora-15-with-gnome-3-better-than.html" rel="nofollow">Fedora 15</a>.<br />But still... there are people who like GNOME3. That's their choice!DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-58846032808234846052011-08-01T18:00:55.053+01:002011-08-01T18:00:55.053+01:00KDE 4 rules! Amusingly, Gnome 3 has no visible shu...KDE 4 rules! Amusingly, Gnome 3 has no visible shutdown button (you have to press the ALT key so that the shutdown button gets visible) - an absolute no-no for Linux novices.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-31853162921337025522011-05-14T21:55:46.547+01:002011-05-14T21:55:46.547+01:00@Anonymous:
I think bickering between fans of diff...@Anonymous:<br />I think bickering between fans of different DEs is both useful and useless. Truth is born in disputute. Even you are not neutral in this dispute since you admit that LMDE is not your cup of tea. I prefer KDE to anything else, you prefer KDE and GNOME to LMDE. We're very similar in this.DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-8953099753437948482011-05-14T07:32:36.168+01:002011-05-14T07:32:36.168+01:00I dont understand the bickering between KDE/Gnome ...I dont understand the bickering between KDE/Gnome fanboys anyway. The beautiful part about Linux is that you dont have to compromise. I have openSUSE KDE(which feels kind of bloated), Ubuntu Lucid-Gnome, and I'm trying to give Natty-Unity a fair shot. I've tried LMDE and was messing around with Debian itself for a bit and kind of set that aside (I'm guessing I wont get back to that for quite awhile with Lovelock (fedora) coming in about 10 days). But anyway, the point is that you can use all of these and switch between with relative ease and a little patience. Hell you can switch between KDE and Gnome on the same distro if you were really so inclined.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-10189935475277345512011-04-27T17:31:02.513+01:002011-04-27T17:31:02.513+01:00@GREG BATMARX:
Thanks, Greg.
I think most of GNOM...@GREG BATMARX: <br />Thanks, Greg.<br />I think most of GNOME apps require good chunk of GNOME as dependency. As a result, you can end up with Molotov's cocktail if you want to run GNOME native apps in KDE. That's why I keep GNOME. As I mentioned, I still think GNOME Baker is still the best burning tool.DarkDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128579430145372138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-10489182820397268902011-04-27T17:24:24.324+01:002011-04-27T17:24:24.324+01:00KDE is by far the best!
Here is why:
1)Each virtua...KDE is by far the best!<br />Here is why:<br />1)Each virtual desktop can have a different set of wallpapers and widgets.Gone can't<br />2)Tabbing apps inside other apps.Simply awesome!Gnome can't<br />3)Activities with its own set of virtual workspaces.Gnome can't<br />4)Depth of customization.The gap becomes bigger since gnome 3 released...<br />5)Built in widgets and big built in variety of kind of wallpapers as well as marvelous screen edges<br /><br />What KDE needs:<br />1)Voice recognition based on the Simon Project<br />2)Showing gnome apps even better than in gnome itself<br />3)Optimization and intense bug fixing so to be stabler and speedierGREG BATMARXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00669151252612053070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-34461295634785197222011-04-21T08:50:01.716+01:002011-04-21T08:50:01.716+01:00@noctslackv1
Hi Eric!
Nice to see you here!@noctslackv1 <br />Hi Eric!<br />Nice to see you here!DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-66989487406973934182011-04-21T02:26:20.725+01:002011-04-21T02:26:20.725+01:00+1 --> Xfce ;)
Hi, DD! You've been officia...+1 --> Xfce ;)<br /><br />Hi, DD! You've been officially bookmarked. Guillermo led me to you. :)<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />~EricAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-68234088293834862412011-04-16T23:43:02.961+01:002011-04-16T23:43:02.961+01:00@Anonymous:
Thanks for your comment. I think Unity...@Anonymous:<br />Thanks for your comment. I think Unity and Gnome3 are most doubtful innovations in Linux world this year.DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-87157669352991067482011-04-16T01:47:05.017+01:002011-04-16T01:47:05.017+01:00For me KDE is like Windows bling-bing.
I abandoned...For me KDE is like Windows bling-bing.<br />I abandoned MS years ago to find rest, tranquilaty and get things done with Gnome :)<br /><br />I do not mind tempering with the cli to get conf files right.<br /><br />I once tried KDE and lost track of which button I (de-)activated in the process of getting things done my way.<br /><br />BTW don't like the unity way but expecting much of Gnome3Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-61007925003332881792011-04-01T22:09:07.953+01:002011-04-01T22:09:07.953+01:00@Anonymous4
If you have decent hardware, everythin...@Anonymous4<br />If you have decent hardware, everything will run smoothly. Even Windows.<br />But what if you do not have it?<br />I am not asking you to get to the level of K.Mandla, but 4-5-6 y.o.laptop should be able to run any decent desktop environment smoothly.<br />To be honest, I think Ubuntu runs little bit faster that Kubuntu. And Debian with GNOME is even more faster. But still... Speed difference is not that significant that I want to change from KDE now.DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-83915644229822335222011-04-01T22:06:17.603+01:002011-04-01T22:06:17.603+01:00@Anonymous3
I think you got to the point. KDE look...@Anonymous3<br />I think you got to the point. KDE looks more mature...DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-89606781577794627892011-04-01T22:05:06.929+01:002011-04-01T22:05:06.929+01:00@Emil Beli
I wrote why I have Kubuntu installed......@Emil Beli<br />I wrote why I have Kubuntu installed... (http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2010/10/how-to-get-south-african-humanity-on.html)<br />Also, I think I made an error when I tried OpenSuSE 11.4 with GNOME (http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2011/03/4-disappointments-from-opensuse-114.html). Everyone tells me I had to chose KDE. Maybe I will make another approach to OpenSuSE...DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-75415114110441429212011-04-01T22:02:15.808+01:002011-04-01T22:02:15.808+01:00@macias
Yes, I like KDE3 too.
There might be sever...@macias<br />Yes, I like KDE3 too.<br />There might be several more reviews of OSes based on KDE3 soon. Stay connected!DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-10791284213398220982011-04-01T22:00:00.531+01:002011-04-01T22:00:00.531+01:00@Steve Chan
This is kind of Holy War. KDE vs GNOME...@Steve Chan<br />This is kind of Holy War. KDE vs GNOME. Windows vs Linux vs Apple. I only gave my humble input in it. ;)<br />We're lucky enough since we know there is GNOME, KDE, XFCE, LXDE, E17 etc. People in Mac/Win do not realize there is an option to change the shell above the OS!DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-45799964897658963432011-04-01T21:57:26.701+01:002011-04-01T21:57:26.701+01:00@Anonymous2:
There might be thousands of applicati...@Anonymous2:<br />There might be thousands of applications which work or do not work in KDE or GNOME. I mentioned the most annoying for me. ;-)DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-42034376898567797442011-04-01T21:54:58.339+01:002011-04-01T21:54:58.339+01:00@Anonymous1
Maybe I hurried a little. But since KD...@Anonymous1<br />Maybe I hurried a little. But since KDE4 is stable for ages, and GNOME is only to be released sometime soon, it will be unfair for KDE to be compared with newer version of GNOME.<br />What do you think? It's like a race. Every time we can have only one winner. Someone has to lose.DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-66045822948592101312011-04-01T21:52:50.680+01:002011-04-01T21:52:50.680+01:00@GI MIKE!
Anyway Nero is not FOSS. I can try it, b...@GI MIKE!<br />Anyway Nero is not FOSS. I can try it, but for sure I will not replace GNOME Baker.DarkDuck (m)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273784224243667602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-29490631520276323752011-03-31T18:45:55.639+01:002011-03-31T18:45:55.639+01:00@Anonymous said "KDE4 ran but at a snails pac...@Anonymous said "KDE4 ran but at a snails pace".<br /><br />If you have a fairly recent computer with decent resources (CPU & Memory), KDE4 should run fine. Check your graphics driver because it could slow KDE quite a bitAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-21945933046296762942011-03-31T18:27:01.666+01:002011-03-31T18:27:01.666+01:00Running current Gnome3 with Fedora15 on a Dell Lat...Running current Gnome3 with Fedora15 on a Dell Lat D820, it runs smooth and is quickly accessible. Even the virtual desktop dock on the right side is what I have finally expected. It could use a little more work on the main dock with a little more 'effects'. KDE4 ran but at a snails pace, doing better once I changed to the laptop/netbook interface (which was not very intuitive). I will probably keep G3 on the laptop, but like the author I run K4 on my desktop, why? the number apps (and libraries) reaching maturity on KDE is making it a complete replacement OS, where GTK apps/libs are still 2-3 years out at the current pace to be equal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-474321140763590831.post-73529808559772123602011-03-31T17:26:50.788+01:002011-03-31T17:26:50.788+01:00As a KDE lover, you are using wrong distro.
Kubunt...As a KDE lover, you are using wrong distro.<br />Kubuntu's implementation of KDE is just... poor.<br /><br />If you love KDE so much, you should go to openSUSE.Emil Belihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11079047149792926089noreply@blogger.com